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12 Din Bindings?

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Remember , the bench test is just for release force. It does not measure elasticity/ return to center. I am not aware of any objective evidence to support the old theory (wive’s tale?) of it being better to be in the middle of the Din range. In fact my experience is that it performs better - elasticity/return to center wise without unnecessary release - when you are running on the low end of the din range since the spring is less compressed and has more “spring” force to stop it going over center and releasing from a momentary shock whereas a cranked up spring has less reange of motion left and is more likely to release. As has been pointed out elsewhere typically above 12/13 din the design and materials usually change. There are some exceptions such as marker xcomp and Xcel where the 12 and 16 are the same and the more metal/stronger version starts at 18
 

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Are the 12 din marker tpx ot Attack bindings vastly inferior to burlier sets?

At about 8.5 din saving about 500 grams seems like a worthwhile consideration. I wouldn't want to go to 11 because they seem flimsy after my kid broke one.
OK I had a chance to get some Attack 12 and 14's in my hand and infact, other than springs (and color options) they are the same binding.
 
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OK I had a chance to get some Attack 12 and 14's in my hand and infact, other than springs (and color options) they are the same binding.
Thank you.

Looking at the website, even the 11s might have the same components.

The site lists both the 12 and 14 at 2020g, and the 11 at 1910.

The 14s are actually less expensive and more marketable for resale. Its hard to imagine that a 12 spring is 110g heavier than an 11 so perhaps the 11s do have lighter possibly less sturdy components.
 

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Thank you.

Looking at the website, even the 11s might have the same components.

The site lists both the 12 and 14 at 2020g, and the 11 at 1910.

The 14s are actually less expensive and more marketable for resale. Its hard to imagine that a 12 spring is 110g heavier than an 11 so perhaps the 11s do have lighter possibly less sturdy components.
Attack 11s have a different heel piece. They feel somewhat flimsy to click into. I've been looking for a good deal on some 13s or 14s to replace mine.
 

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Thank you.

Looking at the website, even the 11s might have the same components.

The site lists both the 12 and 14 at 2020g, and the 11 at 1910.

The 14s are actually less expensive and more marketable for resale. Its hard to imagine that a 12 spring is 110g heavier than an 11 so perhaps the 11s do have lighter possibly less sturdy components.
The 14's are more expensive than the 12's or 11's.

The 11 has a completely different heel than the other two. Much of this is discussed HERE.

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The correct weight of the Attack 11 is 1800gr for a pair and the 12 or 14GW are 2020gr with their beefier heels. Previous Attack 11 also had a higher heel height.

Attack 12 are more often sold in packages and the Attack 13GW or new 14GW sold separately for less money.
Buy last years 13 GW on a deal or the new 14 GW.
 
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Thanks everyone. Might as well get the 13 or 14. I haven't used Attack yet so they will be fun to try out.
 

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