2020 Augment All Mountain 88

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Skied the '8' flex 88 at Mission Ridge, 187. First thought: smooth. Second thought: really smooth. Third thought: this isn't a ski for someone not familiar with the front of their boot. 4th thought: this is really good. Now who's going to by it? With the death of the Head Monsters, a new 'lighter' MX 88, and the 20-21 Storm Rider 88 emerging as the new 'strong-sorta very good 88' (though this is all relative), as much as I really love a ski like this, the market tells me no one likes an 88, yet alone a big boy pants version (are there really enough ski coaches out there to support a brand?), but everyone and their mother's uncle will ski and M5 or Enforcer 100.

Make no mistake, the Augment 88 is an excellent, strong ski. I guess my critique is simply that the skiing public won't want them enough to buy or learn to ski one. IMHO, for the west, an 88 is a swiss army knife that's always ready to go and get it done while the market wants a block of high end knives for every possible use while they eat top ramen and frozen pizza. Head saw the sales numbers writing on the wall and retired one of the single best all around skis on the market. The rest keep making them, but none sell until sale season.... forgive the small 'r' rant and digression.
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@markojp hits some points in his review, this ski is not for everyone, it is not even for most people and I don't think that Augment is looking to be the ski for everyone, but just for the discerning skier...that is also a very good skier. The Am88 is not a ski to be seen on, it is not an ego stroker, especially as the ski gets into the lower stiffer numbers.
 

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I had the opportunity to demo some Augment skis during the 2019 NZ winter season. I'm a lightweight low intermediate skier and surprisingly, was still able to have a good time on these skis. I didn't try anything as wide as the 88 but did try the AM 77 (not the carbon version) and two lengths of this ski - https://augmentskisna.com/products/sport-carving-on-piste-70

I actually had a great time on the carver - onpiste 70. I am 160cm/115lb and first tried this ski in the 156 length. My daily driver is the Black Pearl 88 in 159 length, so a 156 carver is probably on the long side for me. In this length I started having fun on the ski during my second run, once I'd got a bit used to it. I then tried it in 148 length and had a TON of fun. Despite being so skinny and turny it also handled the slush/softer snow just off the sides of the groomed trails nicely as well. They feel very damp and planted. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed this ski. In the 148 length I didn't find them to be overly tiring either.

I ran into someone on the lift who owned that same ski and she loves them, has taken them all over the mountain, on and off piste (not powder :P). I'd be interested to hear if others have been on this particular one?

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I had the opportunity to demo some Augment skis during the 2019 NZ winter season. I'm a lightweight low intermediate skier and surprisingly, was still able to have a good time on these skis. I didn't try anything as wide as the 88 but did try the AM 77 (not the carbon version) and two lengths of this ski - https://augmentskisna.com/products/sport-carving-on-piste-70

I actually had a great time on the carver - onpiste 70. I am 160cm/115lb and first tried this ski in the 156 length. My daily driver is the Black Pearl 88 in 159 length, so a 156 carver is probably on the long side for me. In this length I started having fun on the ski during my second run, once I'd got a bit used to it. I then tried it in 148 length and had a TON of fun. Despite being so skinny and turny it also handled the slush/softer snow just off the sides of the groomed trails nicely as well. They feel very damp and planted. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed this ski. In the 148 length I didn't find them to be overly tiring either.

I ran into someone on the lift who owned that same ski and she loves them, has taken them all over the mountain, on and off piste (not powder :P). I'd be interested to hear if others have been on this particular one?

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I was able to get a ride on the SC (Sport Carve) though at the 164 r13 size. Absolute blast on the firm groomers at Mammoth. I did not get into the bumps with them though I think they'd be totally comfortable in there. As with the AM77 and AM88, they are super smooth and just beg you to go a bit faster and turn a bit tighter. Another fine ski from Augment.
 

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I demo'd the 88 at Mammoth on a hard surface day. As @markojp said, smooth. Eerily smooth, even on the hard, unforgiving stuff just under some scraped off sugar. There was no buzz, no vibration, just an urge to go faster. I felt more comfortable at speed on this ski than any other that I can recall. My speed may not be your speed, but it was pretty zoomy to me!
 

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Happy to announce, Snowind Sports will be the first to carry the Augment ski line in the Tahoe area, with demos arriving in the next few days! WE LIKE'M!

Note: The softer flex all mountain skis I tested at Mammoth were amazingly stable and solid even in the softer flex which permitted a deep decamber, hip dragging situation yet the ski never gave up the hunt! While the race skis offer flex ratings of 1 through 10, (stiffer to softer), the all mountain skis, to lessen confusion, will be offered in three flexes per model (soft, medium, stiff)!

What other ski manufacturer does this?.... None that I can think of! This opens up a great opportunity to match a particular side cut with the skill level, weight, and aggressiveness of a particular customer. It brings back memories of the Salomon PR or power rating system of sizing skis. If you remember with the introduction of the Salomon ski, Salomon offered a unique sizing methodology that asked three questions and made total sense in matching the correct ski size to the consumer. The most important question was weight, the second skill level, and the third level of aggressiveness. These three values were then added together to create a PR rating 3,4,5,6,7,8. The ski being like a shackle spring, distributes the skier's mass along the length of the ski. The ski doesn't know how tall you are but it knows how much weight you are putting on it, how much energy you put into it to decamber it, and how aggressive you are. Matching this power rating to the proper stiffness is key to optimizing the skis performance for a particular skier.

Augment takes a different approach allowing the skier to choose a model and length then match the flex to their profile needs or,
perhaps choose a particular model in a longer length but softer flex or a shorter length and stiffer flex based on personal preference (ie radius) and salesman input. It's an exciting new twist to consider!
 
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So do Augments have the same super damp feel that St have?

Is this a high camber ski or low like modern Volkls?
 

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So do Augments have the same super damp feel that St have?

Is this a high camber ski or low like modern Volkls?
As far as the Stöckli feel, I would say even more solid and damp, a bit more teutonic than say a comparable Stormrider 88, more like the original Kästle MX88. Camber is very traditional.
 

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Thanks Phil.

Had me at damp feel, lost me at trad camber.

I've grown to love the current Völkl Rocker lines- low camber and low long rocker.
 

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Thanks Phil.

Had me at damp feel, lost me at trad camber.

I've grown to love the current Völkl Rocker lines- low camber and low long rocker.
Knowing what you don't want is as important as knowing what you do.
 
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These are all the rage in ski nerd circles down south (NZ). Sadly I didn't make the time to get on a pair which I greatly regret. Every bit of feedback I've heard tells me I would love the ride. +1 for the Stowe, VT demo day!
 

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