2021 Augment All Mountain 98 Ti

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As far as playfulness, I think the AM98Ti is one of the more playful 98-100's offered, the personality range of this ski is huge. Personally I gravitate to playfulness in a ski in this range and the AM delivers in spades.
I reread this sentence and I'll have to say that this aspect surprises me the most. Purely based on written info I had expected a far more serious ski; racebred, long wheelbase, just a little tip/tail rocker, fairly heavy (2000/2100 gr. by 179/180) combined with the Augment view at stiffness. In my mind not directly a recipe for delivering "playfulness in spades." Still very curious how much playfulness is lost in the 187.
Perhaps @Alexzn will shed some light?
 

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I was able to take the AM98(187 length) out for my birthday and what a friggin treat!
I own the AM88 in 179, absolutely love it, and wouldn’t change a thing. The AM98, just based on its shape, I knew would be different and it did not disappoint. Confidence inspiring doesn’t even seem to give it enough credit. I’ve been a big fan of the Augment skis and I don’t hide that fact but I cannot overstate how good this ski is. When considering skis, there is always give and take and you make choices based on the boxes you want it to check. This ski checks so many boxes it makes it an easy choice. If I had a complaint at all it would be in the playfulness category but even that seems a bit unfair because it is playful. Definitely the most playful Augment I’ve been on aside from their freestyle ski. If I’m being super picky it’s not as playful as some skis that check very few boxes in comparison.
This ski gave great feedback while still remaining damp. It’s powerful when that is needed but doesn’t demand your attention all the time. Overall it’s just a dang good ski.
 

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I reread this sentence and I'll have to say that this aspect surprises me the most. Purely based on written info I had expected a far more serious ski; racebred, long wheelbase, just a little tip/tail rocker, fairly heavy (2000/2100 gr. by 179/180) combined with the Augment view at stiffness. In my mind not directly a recipe for delivering "playfulness in spades." Still very curious how much playfulness is lost in the 187.
Perhaps @Alexzn will shed some light?
I need to find the time to write up my impressions. Phil’s description is spot on, this is not a fat race ski, its a purposely-designed-from-the-ground-up all-mountain ski. Augment still bring its top-quality construction and materials to the table and, yes, the ski is not a noodle. The result is quite spectacular, perhaps class-leading.
 

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I love the AM77 and skied it all over Mt. Bachelor. I demoed the AM88 and loved it in pretty crappy conditions at Mammoth last winter. I skied the AM98 in 179 at Alpine the other day and...didn't love it. It felt vague and uncomfortable both on smooth groomers while carving and in some bumps where it just tossed me around. Now, I'm not the worlds greatest bump skier by any account but this was weird. I can, however, get some good railroad tracks laid. On the groomer the tips never felt planted. I didn't trust them to stay hooked in the turn and it was fairly soft snow (Sherwood in the morning, so not mush yet). I believe with the amount of rise in the tips I needed the additional stability of the 187 at my weight and height, 190 and 5'10". This is an "if you're between sizes, go up" ski. I should get some turns on the longer one this weekend.

I've had similar issues with other skis that utilize a long, gradual rise when skiing the shorter length. Make no mistake, the lineage you feel in the other Augments can be felt in the AM98. It is smoooooth. I'm pretty sure the 187 will get me into the "love it" category.
 

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Without the ability to demo, how do you choose what stiffness is best for someone? They say the two stiffest are special order only, so I doubt I'd need that. But, how do you know on the other 3 choices.
 

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Without the ability to demo, how do you choose what stiffness is best for someone? They say the two stiffest are special order only, so I doubt I'd need that. But, how do you know on the other 3 choices.
The ones we have here are on the softer side for their scale but by no means soft. If these were cars, we are talking 350-400HP vs. 700HP.
 

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I love the AM77 and skied it all over Mt. Bachelor. I demoed the AM88 and loved it in pretty crappy conditions at Mammoth last winter. I skied the AM98 in 179 at Alpine the other day and...didn't love it. It felt vague and uncomfortable both on smooth groomers while carving and in some bumps where it just tossed me around. Now, I'm not the worlds greatest bump skier by any account but this was weird. I can, however, get some good railroad tracks laid. On the groomer the tips never felt planted. I didn't trust them to stay hooked in the turn and it was fairly soft snow (Sherwood in the morning, so not mush yet). I believe with the amount of rise in the tips I needed the additional stability of the 187 at my weight and height, 190 and 5'10". This is an "if you're between sizes, go up" ski. I should get some turns on the longer one this weekend.

I've had similar issues with other skis that utilize a long, gradual rise when skiing the shorter length. Make no mistake, the lineage you feel in the other Augments can be felt in the AM98. It is smoooooth. I'm pretty sure the 187 will get me into the "love it" category.
I’m curious. You and I and Phil are about the same size and weight. I haven’t read any complaints from Phil about vagueness or beiing tossed around in bumps. Is it a ‘feeling’ matter or skiing style or...?
Another question: you wrote that you’ve had similar issues with other skis (...). Have you skied Enforcer 100 in 177 and 185? I always felt the 177 would be too short for me purely based on how the 185 skied.
 

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I’m curious. You and I and Phil are about the same size and weight. I haven’t read any complaints from Phil about vagueness or beiing tossed around in bumps. Is it a ‘feeling’ matter or skiing style or...?
Another question: you wrote that you’ve had similar issues with other skis (...). Have you skied Enforcer 100 in 177 and 185? I always felt the 177 would be too short for me purely based on how the 185 skied.
I am guessing style has something to do with it. Phil is a more advanced skier than me and we have a few other skis that we don't personally care for while the other one does. I haven't been on the Enforcer so can't report there. I do like the the Evolv100 in the longer length but it has less rise in the tip. I would have thought I'd like it shorter. Honestly, it's usually me, not the ski.
 

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Long Term Update: OK, please read the post above concerning the 179 with a grain of salt. I was able to take both the 179 and 187 up to Mt. Rose this morning. It was actually good conditions to test in. High wind, limited visibility at the top, and between 0 and 8-10" of fresh, depending on where the wind blew it. Essentially, you could go from boot deep rollers to scratched off frozen several times in one turn. Throw in soft piles for bumps, bumps hiding under soft snow, and really nice tree snow and it was truly a test of a ski's mettle.

I skied the 187s first. Blown. Away. They provide a soft yet controlled suspension over the varying snow. In the piles I could either GS turn or pivot on top. The ski just flowed over and around. On the blown off groomers with wind affected whale backs they just moved from hard to soft to hard with no problems or excitement. I took them into the trees, which had wonderful soft snow, and found I could turn them as quickly as necessary to avoid owees. Float, flow, pivot, carve.

After 3 or 4 runs I got on the 179s. I took them down the same run I just did on the 189s. Growing soft piles with crust in between. Once again, like the other day, I felt tossed about a bit. OK, what's up? I then took them down one of my favorite, very familiar runs. They were better in the chop but still not overly confidence inspiring. On the groomers I felt the same disconnect I felt a few days back.

I don't know why there is such a noticeable difference in the way these two skis feel to me with only an 8cm difference. @Philpug loves the 179 and we're almost the same weight and height. Some thoughts are binding position, boot angle, and general skiing style. My BSL is about 15-20mm longer than Phil's. With the Salomon demo bindings only having adjustment on the heel piece, I'd be skiing them a bit further back. Does it make a difference? Perhaps. My boots also have a bit more forward lean than Phil's so I'm probably a little more forward over the tip of the ski. That extra few centimeters may come into play there. And then there's style. Phil has a very easy, flowing, efficient style of skiing while I tend to muscle my way around to compensate for shortfalls in technique. That extra length may just keep me from tipping over!

I got back on the 187s and finished the morning until the lifts got put on wind hold. Trees, glades, tighter trees, piles, groomers all felt good. Even in fresh, untracked powder, these Augments feel, um, different. Silky. Quiet (they even sound different when you drop them to the snow to click in). Sooo smooth transitioning from one snow type to another. I don't think I'd want the 98 for my DD but I could be talked into it. I see more groomers than fluff so the AM88 would likely be my choice from the Augment line. The 98 would be for the skier who really likes wider skis and may have the opportunity to put that extra bit of width to use more often than not.
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Last day of winter goodness

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The guy who has these went into the lodge just before me. I came out less than 5 minutes later. Yes, the wind was blowing.

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Varying conditions

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Proper top sheet coating

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A bit foggy. It did get worse before it got better before it got worse again.
 
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:hail: Thank you, thank you. Very enlightning. Given your description of riding the 187 I conclude it is not very ‘trucklike’ what Phil expected it to be for a bit. And I assume it still has its playful properties.
Given my own preference for longer skis, the fact that the behaviour and feeling of the 187 is not radically changed in ‘too much ski’ or ‘more trucklike’ leads me to believe I’ve found a new, even better Enforcer. In short: I think I will get an extra mortgage and buy one. Thx.
 

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I conclude it is not very ‘trucklike’ what Phil expected it to be for a bit. And I assume it still has its playful properties.
I am off snow still until next week when I hope to get on the 187.
 

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