Comparison Review 2022 Tyrolia/Fischer Bindings

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MODELTOE
HEIGHT (mm)
HEEL HEIGHT
(mm)
SETTING RANGEWEIGHT (g/pr)STANDARD BRAKE SIZES (mm)OPTIONAL BRAKE SIZES (mm)SOLE COMPATIBILITY
SX 10 GW13213-10165078[J]DIN, GripWalk
AM 12 GW13213.5-12198085, 95, 110[D] 130, 150DIN, GripWalk
Attack 11 GW12173-111910[A]85, 95, 110[A] 130, 150DIN, GripWalk
Attack 11 AT17243-111840[A] 85, 95, 110[G]78, 115DIN, GripWalk
Attack 12 GW12173.5-122070[A] 85, 95, 110[A]130, 150DIN, GripWalk
Attack 14 GW12174-142070[A]85, 95, 110[A]130, 150DIN, GripWalk
Attack 14 AT17244-142180*[A]85, 95, 110, 130, 150DIN, GripWalk, AT
Attack 17 GW12176-172190*[A]85, 95, 110, 130, 150DIN, GripWalk
PRW 11 GW (system)27313-11184085[G]78, 90, 100, 115DIN, Gripwalk
PRD 12 GW (system)28333.5-12200085[F]95, 110, 130, 150DIN, Gripwalk
Freeflex Demo 14 GW (demo)17214-14265085[D]95, 110DIN, GripWalk
Attack 11 MN (demo)28323-112370[F]95, 110[F]85, 130, 150DIN, GripWalk, AT
Attack 14 MN (demo)28324-132490[F]95, 110[F]85, 130, 150DIN, GripWalk, AT
*Binding not sold with brakes.
Note: All specs are based on information available at time of publishing and are subject to change. Some of these bindings might be branded as 4FRNT, Elan, Kästle, or Liberty. Bracketed letters are brake codes.


Tyrolia SX 10 GW
  • Pluses: Older model updated to add GripWalk
  • Minuses: Older model. Even though wider brakes are available, please don't use on skis >80mm wide
  • Color options: Black
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon L10, Z10; Look NX 11 GW; Marker 10.0 TP
Tyrolia AM 12 GW
  • Pluses: Great value
  • Minuses: Tough to find in stock, not all shops are smart enough to see the value.
  • Color options: Matte Black, Matte White
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon Z12; Look NX 12 GW; Marker X-Comp 12 GW
Tyrolia Attack 11 GW
  • Pluses: Delta more in line with rest of Tyrolia collection. Lightweight, very responsive toe, fast return to center
  • Minuses: Single stage heel.
  • Color options: Flash Yellow, Solid Black, Solid White
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon Stage 11, Warden MNC 11; Look NX 11 GW, NX 12 GW; Marker Squire 11 ID
Fischer Attack 11 AT
  • Pluses: Lateral spring toe is compact, fast return to center, accepts all soles
  • Minuses: Will be tough to find in shops, brakes sold a la carte. Taller than Attack 11 GW
  • Color options: Black
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon Warden MNC 11; Look NX 11 Dual; Marker Griffon 11 ID
Tyrolia Attack 12 GW
  • Pluses: New FR Pro3 Toe. Lateral spring toe is compact, fast return to center, best price in segment
  • Minuses: Limited color options
  • Color options: Matte White
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon Warden MNC 11; Look NX 11 Dual, NX 12 Dual; Marker Squire 11 ID
Tyrolia Attack 14 GW
  • Pluses: New FR Pro3 Toe. Lateral spring toe is compact, fast return to center, best price in segment
  • Minuses: A high spring 12
  • Color options: Flash Yellow, Solid Black, Green, Red, Matte White, Blue
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon Warden MNC 13, STH2 WTR 13; Look Pivot 14 GW; Marker Griffon 13 ID
Fischer/Tyrolia Attack 14 NM
  • Pluses: New FR Pro3 Toe. Lateral spring toe is compact, fast return to center, accepts all soles
  • Minuses: Taller stand height than other Attack bindings. Will be tough to find in shops, brakes sold a la carte
  • Color options: Black
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon Warden MNC 13; Look Pivot 14 GW; Marker Griffon 13 ID
Tyrolia Attack 17 GW
  • Pluses: New FR Pro3 Toe. Metal wrapped Race Pro FR heel. Lateral spring toe is compact, fast return to center
  • Minuses: Brakes sold a la carte
  • Color options: Flash Yellow, Black, Blue
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon STH2 WTR 16; Look Pivot 15 GW, Pivot 18 GW; Marker Jester 16 ID
Demo/System Bindings

Tyrolia PR 11 GW

  • Adjustment range: 255-378 mm
  • Toolless length adjustment: Yes
  • Sole compatibility: DIN, GripWalk
  • Pluses: You can buy extra plates; they come in four-packs
  • Minuses: High stack height
  • Color options: Solid Black
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon Warden MNC 11 DT; Look NX 12 Konect; Marker Squire 11 TCX D
Tyrolia PRD 12 GW
  • Adjustment range: 255-378 mm
  • Toolless length adjustment: Yes
  • Sole compatibility: DIN, GripWalk
  • Pluses: You can buy extra plates; they come in four-packs
  • Minuses: Very high stack height
  • Color options: Matte White/Black, Matte Black. Matte Black/Yellow, Matte Black/Blue, Matte Black, Green, Matte Black/Red
  • Others to consider: Look SPX Konect 12; Marker FDT TPX 12
Tyrolia Freeflex Demo 14 GW
  • Adjustment range: 259-382 mm
  • Toolless length adjustment: Yes w/manual toe height
  • Sole compatibility: DIN, GripWalk
  • Pluses: Low stand height
  • Minuses: There are brake options but binding works best on a hard-snow specific ski
  • Color options: Black/White, Flash Yellow/Black
  • Others to consider: Look SPX 12 Konect; Marker FDT TPX 12
Fischer/Tyrolia Attack 11 MN Demo
  • Adjustment range: 259-382 mm
  • Toolless length adjustment: Yes w/manual toe height
  • Sole compatibility: DIN, GripWalk, WTR, MNC
  • Pluses: Accepts all soles
  • Minuses: Brake no longer stays on plate
  • Color options: Black
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon Warden MNC 11 DT; Look NX 12 Konect; Marker Squire 11 TCX D
Fischer/Tyrolia Attack 14 MN Demo
  • Adjustment range: 259-382 mm
  • Toolless length adjustment: Yes w/manual toe height
  • Sole compatibility: DIN, GripWalk, WTR, MNC
  • Pluses: Accepts all soles
  • Minuses: Brake no longer stays on plate, high stand height
  • Color options: Black
  • Others to consider: Atomic/Salomon Warden MNC 13 DT; Look SPX 12 Konect; Marker FDT TPX 12, Griffon 13 TCX D, Griffon 13 D
 

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Thank you for your detailed specs!

Did Tyrolia abandon the AAAttack2 series for 2021-2022?
 
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Thank you for your detailed specs!

Did Tyrolia abandon the AAAttack2 series for 2021-2022?
the Attacks are indeed new this year.
 

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Got 14 GWs on both pair of my Ripstick Blacks.

@Philpug what do you mean by “high spring” for the 14 GW?
 
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Got 14 GWs on both pair of my Ripstick Blacks.

@Philpug what do you mean by “high spring” for the 14 GW?
It is the same binding as the 12, just with a bigger spring. Unless you are skiing the binding at a 10 or more, save the money and go with the 12. If You are skiing that high of a setting, step up to the 17 for a better housing.
 

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@Philpug interesting point. I think there’s a problem with the 12’s spring. They're consistently inconsistent.

My 22 14 GWs and 21 Attack2 13 GWs test true to DIN on a Wintersteiger. Even on previous seasons skis the 13s tested true.

My wife is on 21 Attack2 12 GWs and 22 Attack12 GW. None of which fully test true to DIN. 1 or 2 binding parts per pair of skis tests true, other parts need to be adjusted 1/2 or 1 DIN lower. No rhyme or reason toe vs heel piece.

This is across 3 pair of boots and multiple pairs of skis for her, so I’m fairly certain the Attack 12s springs have something up.
 
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Tyrolia also makes an ST16 and ST16 RD. That would be my choice for a groomer zoomer or high speed ski, which one for me depends on what the difference is other than the spring; I don't need a high DIN setting.

The DIN of the different models tops out over the years at various numbers depending on the year, 14 to 20. Touted features for the STs include Stream toe and Adaptive Suspension technology.

I can't find much about the suspension, but there's a nice video of the toe here:

 
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The AFD height on the Attack2 and the 2022 versions are adjustable, so their 12mm spec is their lowest setting on the Attack 11/12/14/17 GW models but they adjust from 12-15mm(usually around 14mm after adjustment). The AT versions are similar with a 17-22mm adjustment range on their AFD on the toe.

@Philpug Could this be changed on the graph so people don’t think the adjusted Ramp is larger than it is? Thanks!
 
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The AFD height on the Attack2 and the 2022 versions are adjustable, so their 12mm spec is their lowest setting on the Attack 11/12/14/17 GW models but they adjust from 12-15mm(usually around 14mm after adjustment). The AT versions are similar with a 17-22mm adjustment range on their AFD on the toe.

@Philpug Could this be changed on the graph so people don’t think the adjusted Ramp is larger than it is? Thanks!
The Delta, does not change, the AFD does to accomidate the different soles but the Delta is static because the top of the toe lug does not move.
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*Now the Salomon Warden 11/13, the AFD is static and the top of the lug adjusts, this can change the delta (slightly)
 

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The Delta, does not change, the AFD does to accomidate the different soles but the Delta is static because the top of the toe lug does not move.
*Now the Salomon Warden 11/13, the AFD is static and the top of the lug adjusts, this can change the delta (slightly)
Bindings with a static AFD height shouldn’t change delta as the boot toe height is not changing. It’s just being held tighter in place/eliminating any play by the lowering toe height down. The floor/AFD height the boot is sitting on isn’t changing.

Bindings with a rising AFD will change the toe height up to a max total height determined by that toe lug but there would be few mm of play of the boot toe between the AFD and that toe lug before adjustment.

Gap between toe lug and boot before adjustment at it’s lowest (12mm) AFD height.

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When you “wheelie the toe” to eliminate slack there is then a 2mm plus gap between the AFD and boot now tight against toe lug.

On an typical alpine sole boot in an Attack2 toe, you raise the AFD(and toe height) forward and up 2-2.5 mm(14 to 14.5mm total height) with adjustment to get rid of any play.
Most alpine boots would be too tight against that fixed toe lug to allow for proper release at the AFD max height of 15mm(up 3mm from it’s minimum height).

After raising the AFD up to eliminate slack.
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I haven’t set up any GW soles on Attacks to know how much the AFD lifts with those though.
 

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I have 12s and 13s, but have previously avoided the 11 due to the ramp angle difference. Since I don't need the 12 or 13 for DIN, is there any reason I should not consider the 11 now that they have modified the ramp angle?
 

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I have 12s and 13s, but have previously avoided the 11 due to the ramp angle difference. Since I don't need the 12 or 13 for DIN, is there any reason I should not consider the 11 now that they have modified the ramp angle?
The Attack 11 still has a lighter, less robust heel piece, so still more of a beginner binding. I’d stay with the Attack2 12 or above still.
 

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Phil,
How does
PRD 12 GW compare to PRD 14 GW?
PRD 14 compare to other top demo (adjustable) bindings?
PRD 14 compare to new 23 Protector (especially heel)?
Purchase PRD 14 now or wait for Protectors?
TIA
 
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