Utah 2023-2024 Utah Ski Resorts/Conditions/Meetups

[gratedwasabi]

I'm glad I decided on Alta for my early trip! Sounds like there will be skiing to be had!

 

[Philpug]

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How many animals did they test or was it just primates?

 

[ss20]

I was working but not "skiing" today... holy crap... where did these snowbanks come from??? We should end with 55-60"!!! What a great early season storm. I'm thinking we'll get everything in play save for Devil's Castle and East Castle. When is a good question. Sunnyside Tuesday or Wednesday and Supreme for the weekend is what I am hearing. Going to be a crazy amount of mitigation the next few days... we are certainly marching towards Christmas.

 

[ZionPow]

@Tricia and I plan on being at Snowbasin Monday AM 12/4 if anyone is going to be around.

I will be working tomorrow and would like to make a run or 2 with you. We are going in early tomorrow morning for avy mitigation. After I get my route clear, I will try to meet up with you. I will be dressed in red and black! Hope to see you tomorrow.

 

[blackke17]

our new reality , Saturday morning at Alta .

very strange Powder day . wind affected big time. scraping ice moguls underneath - some really deep pockets. lengthy delay getting things opened in the morning (understandably) . not the most enjoyable day of skiing . Glad i sat Sunday out . lifts didn't spin til 1130ish : reports from my buddy " Bitter wind, snow is just wind destroyed and tricky"

Saw the Ski Boss Tanner Hall skiing Wildcat on Saturday. making it look easy

good base building event

 

[Tricia]

@SpikeDog @AmyPJ we're on our way up. We will be booting up in the lodge because we have to change after done skiing to go to meetings.

 

[ZionPow]

I just got assigned to ride in a cat to the top of John Paul and shoot the avalauncher. I may be able to make a few runs later. Have fun!

 

[AmyPJ]

@SpikeDog @AmyPJ we're on our way up. We will be booting up in the lodge because we have to change after done skiing to go to meetings.

Sorry, missed this and you guys! Boy, it rained a lot at lower elevations up there last night

 

[Tricia]

 

[Philpug]

@Philpug @Tricia and @SpikeDog at Snowbasin in a whiteout day.

 

[Philpug]

How many animals did they test or was it just primates?

Todays conditions were more monkey mucus than gorilla snot.

 

[4ster]

Snowbasin in a whiteout day.

Todays conditions were more monkey mucus than gorilla snot.

That’s actually a pretty regular thing & a lack of tree skiing doesn’t help. Last years biggest complaint l heard was too many flat light days. I don’t think we had any monkey mucus last year but most seasons we do & rain is common below the bottom of Porky lift. But when the sun is shining & everything is open, it can be pretty special!

In other news, more on Wasatch Peaks. It would be great if Morgan County bought it & made it a municipal public non-profit blue collar area. Carhartts & Flannel & flannel FTW !

Private ski resort for wealthy ordered to halt sales and construction in Morgan County

Wasatch Peaks Ranch has been ordered by a judge to stop further construction while zoning laws for the land under the private ski area in Morgan County are put to a referendum.

www.sltrib.com

 

[Dwight]

In other news, more on Wasatch Peaks. It would be great if Morgan County bought it & made it a municipal public non-profit blue collar area. Carhartts & Flannel & flannel FTW !

Private ski resort for wealthy ordered to halt sales and construction in Morgan County

Wasatch Peaks Ranch has been ordered by a judge to stop further construction while zoning laws for the land under the private ski area in Morgan County are put to a referendum.

www.sltrib.com

Paywall.

 

[4ster]

Paywall.

Writing in his decision that “any claimed damages it incurs may be self inflicted,” a district judge ruled Friday that Wasatch Peaks Ranch must temporarily halt further land development.

Second District Judge Noel Hyde issued a temporary restraining order against the private ski area and Morgan County. The order was requested by five county residents who had won the right to put to referendum the zoning laws under which Wasatch Peaks Ranch had been developing. Those laws were approved in 2019 by the Morgan County Council, which changed most of the 12,700 acres under the ski and golf resort from “forestry” and “multiple-use” to a “resort special district.”

The residents filed for a referendum shortly after the council’s approval. In September, Judge Hyde made the decision to allow the referendum. The county and Wasatch Peaks Ranch have since filed an appeal that is expected to be heard by the state Supreme Court.


According to state law, if a zoning law change is subject to a referendum, the original zoning remains in place until citizens have a chance to vote on the change.

However, less than two weeks after the request for the referendum was approved, Wasatch Peaks Ranch developers requested approval of permits for their “plat 3A” subdivision, using the zoning approved by the county council.

In allowing the temporary restraining order, Judge Hyde wrote “no substantial damage is imposed on Morgan County by requiring compliance with the Utah Constitution and the enforcement of applicable land-use laws.”

Hyde indicated that Wasatch Peaks Ranch knew the original zoning laws were supposed to remain in place. Still, resort managers requested the county commission (which replaced the council) approve development permits under the zoning laws that are in question.

“Although the court recognizes the inconvenience of the Temporary Restraining Order to Wasatch Peaks Ranch,” Hyde wrote in his decision, “permitting ongoing potentially unlawful development of its property is subordinate to the public interest.”

Wasatch Peaks Ranch must halt all construction and development on its property with the exception of protective maintenance. It also cannot sell or transfer any property while the restraining order is in effect.

The restraining order is good for 14 days. On Wednesday, the court will consider issuing a preliminary injunction. If approved, Wasatch Peaks Ranch would be required to cease all development and sales at least until the Utah Supreme Court rules on the referendum appeal. No date has been set for that hearing.

The five county residents who are seeking the injunction include Whitney Croft, David Pike, Robert Bohman, Brandon Peterson and Shelley Paige. Because of the appeal, they have not been able to obtain the documents for collecting signatures. They will need to collect about a thousand signatures to be able to put the zoning laws changes on the ballot.

 

[Wasatchman]

@4ster this will be interesting to follow. My understanding is that a lot of county residents were in favor of Wasatch Peaks because it was development with the greatest likelihood to preserve the semi rural feel of the community while providing tax revenue. Either way, it's great that residents get to explicitly vote on it rather than council who sadly all too often do not adequately represent the wishes of their constituents.

 

[4ster]

Either way, it's great that residents get to explicitly vote on it rather than council who sadly all too often do not adequately represent the wishes of their constituents.

Similar going’s on in the Ogden Valley with developers seemingly skewing the master plan to their advantage. Lots of residents are unhappy & trying to slow things down. Eden folks feeling forced to try incorporating & getting out from under the wing of Weber County who probably just sees us as a cash cow without concern for the local population.


I am torn! Often with development comes some useful public amenities & conveniences. For me the developers have already added some great mtb trails but also constant trucks, increased traffic & obscured views. Development Is inevitable, we would just like to see it done responsibly.

 

[Tricia]

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@Philpug @Tricia and @SpikeDog at Snowbasin in a whiteout day.

I posted the first pic from my phone so didn't write anything.
Visibility up top was non existent, by the time we got to the area just above the base of Middle Bowl Chair it was clear. The ski surface was really good but it was worth it to go all the way to the base because vis was best on the lower part of the mountain.

We knew we had to be off the hill for a meeting but didn't have a time nailed down until we were on the gondola so we had to be off the hill by 12-12:30.
Kinda felt bad that we bailed on @SpikeDog earlier than expected but so good to catch up. Lets do this again when we can stay longer.

 

[4ster]

The ski surface was really good but it was worth it to go all the way to the base because vis was best on the lower part of the mountain.

Good to hear the snow was good. Looks like a little more coming in a few days. Staying below the fog will be one of the pluses the new DeMoisey lift will provide in Strawberry where visibility is even worse.
Looking better this morning…

 

[AmyPJ]

Good to hear the snow was good. Looks like a little more coming in a few days. Staying below the fog will be one of the pluses the new DeMoisey lift will provide in Strawberry where visibility is even worse.
Looking better this morning…
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Unfortunately, coverage on the lower mountain got destroyed by the rain. Little Cat is not split in two at all, where the folks coming from the upper mountain split off to the left and therefore stay out of the path of the beginners (or those of us feeling out new boots and working on some skills.) There's not enough snow to have the entire width of that area open. If only they had started snow making sooner...I'm afraid this is going to become a much more normal scenario for the lower-elevation resorts. A couple degrees warmer is all it takes to have the precipitation fall as rain vs. snow. I question some of the decision making that isn't more forward-looking as far as climate goes, which would include more improvements to the lift system on the upper aspects of the mountain.

 

[4ster]

I question some of the decision making that isn't more forward-looking as far as climate goes, which would include more improvements to the lift system on the upper aspects of the mountain.

Replace Porky with a station at the present top terminal but then continue to the top of Porky Cirque has always been my plan.
Expansive mostly north facing bowl which retains snow into summer…