2023 Lusti MP 77

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Philpug:
Size tested: 177cm
Location tested: Palisades Tahoe, CA
Conditions tested in: Softening firm groomers, hard solid crust

We get the question a lot: "What is an all mountain ski that I can progress on?" If you are a guy, the Lusti Men's Progress 77 or its moniker the MP 77. Yes, this is another very familiar shaped ski at 130/77/112 that will make a multitude of turn shapes at a multitude of speeds including all but the highest that you would expect from an all mountain ski, but that‘s what you have the Performance Carve or PC 77 for.

Yes, I was able to find the limits of the MP, but quite frankly that is when I put the ski in uncomfortable places (not unlike the back seat of a Volkswagen). Where the MP77 is most comfortable is holding your hand and walking you though your progression, and while it will help you get better and find your turn, it will not punish you, but (like other Lusti skis) reward you with a silky smooth turn no matter the snow conditions.
  • Insider tip: No need to step up to the Speedlock.
  • One thing I would change: Better discription of the MP 77 on Lusti's site.

Andy Mink:
Size tested: 177cm
Location tested: Palisades Tahoe, CA
Conditions tested in: Softening firm groomers, hard solid crust

The MP77 provides a more mellow ride than the PC 77 in the same dimensions. It definitely has a limit where a bigger guy, i.e. me, or a stronger skier will find its limits when pushed, but it needs to be pushed pretty far first. On the softer morning groomers the MP77 carves very smoothly with confidence. On the firmer, steeper, runs the little brother to the excellent Lusti PC 77 loses some grip at higher edge angles. The loss comes on progressively so there are no surprises and it's easily managed.

The softer flex makes the MP77 a bit more inviting in bumps and more uneven terrain than the stronger PC 77.

  • Insider tip: It skis true to length but I'd err on the longer side if between lengths.
  • One thing I would change: Nothing. I think Lusti hit the nail on the head for the expectations of this ski. And the graphics are great!
 
Who is it for?
The advancing skier looking for a very capable ride to take them to the next level on groomers and light off piste duty. Skiers with a good skills foundation looking to improve, or lightweight experts with a great foundation.
Who is it not for?
Heavier or stronger skiers will find the ski's limit (but will have to work for it).
Skier ability
  1. Intermediate
  2. Advanced
Ski category
  1. Frontside
  2. All Mountain
Ski attributes
  1. Groomers
  2. Moguls
Segment
  1. Men

Specifications

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Available sizes
156,163,170,177
Dimensions
130/77/112
Rocker profile
  1. Full camber
Size Scaling
  1. None
Construction design
  1. Carryover
Binding options
  1. Flat
  2. System
  3. Plate

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I've been on a pair of Volkl RTM 79s for several seasons as my first skis. They work great for me but sometimes, when I'm going fast, they get chattery and feel soft. I'm working on both carving (not there much) and being more comfortable at higher speeds.

I weight175ish, or maybe a little more due to the pandemic, at 5'10". Not a charger, trying to ski smoother and better. All East coast groomers.

I'd been looking at the Blossom AM77 with the lightest plate for next season, but these are a lot cheaper.

Would these skis be a noticeable step up from my Volkls? Or should I try for the Blossoms.

Not sure about sizing of either ski either (170 or 177); my Volkls are 170s.
 
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I've been on a pair of Volkl RTM 79s for several seasons as my first skis. They work great for me but sometimes, when I'm going fast, they get chattery and feel soft. I'm working on both carving (not there much) and being more comfortable at higher speeds.

I weight175ish, or maybe a little more due to the pandemic, at 5'10". Not a charger, trying to ski smoother and better. All East coast groomers.

I'd been looking at the Blossom AM77 with the lightest plate for next season, but these are a lot cheaper.

Would these skis be a noticeable step up from my Volkls? Or should I try for the Blossoms.

Not sure about sizing of either ski either (170 or 177); my Volkls are 170s.
These will be a step up from the Volkl's for sure, then the Blossoms a step up from these then the PC77 up from the Blossoms. Small steps but steps none the less. If going with the 170, the AM77 or the PC77 if you are investing in a change.
 

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Just watched the video. Looks like these are in the ballpark of whiteouts and AX.

They don't seem to be on premierskis.com. Did they get sold out already?!?
Might there be another source?
 

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Just watched the video. Looks like these are in the ballpark of whiteouts and AX.

They don't seem to be on premierskis.com. Did they get sold out already?!?
Might there be another source?
@Premier Skis to the SkiTalk Courtesy Phone
 

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Just watched the video. Looks like these are in the ballpark of whiteouts and AX.

They don't seem to be on premierskis.com. Did they get sold out already?!?
Might there be another source?

We are updating our website as we speak. We should have the site updated tomorrow and a page with our preseason sale specials up at the same time. Stay tuned!

Mike
 

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If you want a mellow front side ski would you pick Blossom AM77 or Lusti MP77?
The Lusti MP77 is more mellow than the Blossom, especially for a larger skier. I've yet to find the top end speed-wise of the Blossom, though I'm not a speed freak. The Lusti MP77 is a more relaxed ride, allowing the skier to not have to be as tuned in to the ski, if that makes sense. It skis very nicely at low to medium speeds, with good snow feel and a smooth ride. It carves really well on firm snow but loses some ground when it gets really hard. I had the chance to ski them on some training runs that had been salted at Palisades. They hold adequately but are not super hard snow experts. They'd be easier all around for someone who isn't going to push their limits.
 
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If you want a mellow front side ski would you pick Blossom AM77 or Lusti MP77?
The Lusti MP77 will be mellower but the AM77 will be a bit quieter and more refined.
 

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If you want a mellow front side ski would you pick Blossom AM77 or Lusti MP77?
It will also depend on how you choose to mount the Blossoms (or any other ski). Mounted flat with no plate they'll be somewhat softer. With the Speedlock Pro Light plate they do get a stiffer flex. My personal AM77s have that setup. I've skied the AM77 with the Speedcom plate and could tell it was a little softer. @bbinder has his mounted flat, I believe, but I haven't skied them flat.
 

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The Lusti MP77 will be mellower but the AM77 will be a bit quieter and more refined.

My principle "frontside" ski now is the Fischer RC One 86GT (very much like this ski and not sure if the AM or MP would give me much more). Neither would be my everyday ski, simply change of pace skis when the mood strikes and want to stick to carving on groomers. All skiing in Western Rockies. Given that which would you think is a better fit? Also undecided on plates or mounting with Pivots.
 

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My principle "frontside" ski now is the Fischer RC One 86GT (very much like this ski and not sure if the AM or MP would give me much more). Neither would be my everyday ski, simply change of pace skis when the mood strikes and want to stick to carving on groomers. All skiing in Western Rockies. Given that which would you think is a better fit?
I think you will want more of a ski than the MP77, either the AM77 or even the PC77 if you are staying with Lusti.
 

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I have the system bindings on my RC One's. They act effectively as demo bindngs. Do the VSP 412's on the VIST speedcoms work effectively the same way or are they "fixed" on to the plate?
 

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I have the system bindings on my RC One's. They act effectively as demo bindngs. Do the VSP 412's on the VIST speedcoms work effectively the same way or are they "fixed" on to the plate?
The same, and the toe and heel move separate.
 

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My principle "frontside" ski now is the Fischer RC One 86GT (very much like this ski and not sure if the AM or MP would give me much more). Neither would be my everyday ski, simply change of pace skis when the mood strikes and want to stick to carving on groomers. All skiing in Western Rockies. Given that which would you think is a better fit? Also undecided on plates or mounting with Pivots.
Imo an easy going front side ski like an am 77 really solves many of the same use case as a wide carver up through a low 90s. So it may come down to which ski you like more or if the personality of the ski meshes with your style more than another.

I have skied my whiteouts / am77 with and with out the visit plate. And imo, the ski gains more on piste with the plate than they loose off piste when compared with a flat binding.
 

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I have skied my whiteouts / am77 with and with out the visit plate. And imo, the ski gains more on piste with the plate than they loose off piste when compared with a flat binding.

Uh-oh you are making me rethink my plan to Pivots on the AM77’s I just ordered. @Philpug knows I love nothing more than to overthink my gear purchases
 

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