I would be very interested to know if the 190 is much stiffer or have a different construction.
Dunno, beyond the specs on Blister over the years, and feel of the skis at different mount points. Sorry.
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I would be very interested to know if the 190 is much stiffer or have a different construction.
Wow.I think you would like the cb.
Mount them back if you have a more traditional style.
I've had a dozen days on 186 CB. They're mounted with pins, and although they're a bit of a chore on the uptrack, they're a lot of fun in the alpine or in nicely spaced trees. I'm planning on putting pivots on them next season though. I ski in a lot of tight spaces in the backcountry, and these are best with a bit of speed.
The deathwish (I have about 30 days on the tour and a lot of days between two pairs of the resort weight version) is not a charger, but it's very good in trees and kicking Horse chutes. It's my favorite ski, but definitely on the playful side of the spectrum.
In my quiver, it fits between the cb and the commander tour and salomon mnt 95 for touring and the billygoat and mantra 102 for resorts. Different than the others, but a lot of fun!
Back on topic:
My partner skis on the 179 wildcat and 174 wildcat tour. She also has a semi retired 174 first gen (the light one) wildcat.The heavier, longer cat is a charger for her (5'7" 135 lbs) but it seems to suit her style. It seems like the old bibby/new cat construction is a winner.
I would like to try a 184 Wildcat one day. Liz is a huge fan.
We'll be skiing fernie tomorrow with 40 cm or more of fresh. Liz will be on the wildcats.
P.S. These skis are all held to the wall by buttonskirack buttons, all holding the tow piece at the same level.
(But sometimes they slip, as the ski in front is held only by the brakes to the one behind it. The Bibby Pro 190s have slipped.)
The Bibby Pro 190 mount (Schizos) is a work in progress.
The second pic shows most of my other favorite powder skis also (at least of the ones I happen to own currently), including two of the tank crud busters.
I've been curious to try a triple camber versus the same ski with a traditional camber and see if there's any difference. I doubt Moment will make a one-off just to feed my curiosity!due to the tripple camber design
As long as one‘s schedule is “flexible” you can get at least two days per season in Vermont where those will be the perfect ski. The December 2020 40” storm comes to mind. Keep the hope alive!Uggh! Same problem as @Truberski but I pulled the trigger anyway on the 184 Wildcats in hopes that one day I can move back out west again or nail one of the few fleeting Nor'Easters that don't decide to hit Tennessee, Virginia or New Jersey instead. I'll move back once they solve their water issues out there! West..." Liquors' for drinkin, waters' for fightn' "
@Ron... The 116's are not bad for a Skinny ski!!! LOL I mounted them up w/ Schizo's like @ski otter 2 to see if I could make them a bit more turny for tight Vermont trees. I have yet to use them... no real deep storms up here in a LONG time.
( Volkl Kuros 131 underfoot insanity - only used 5x in 10yrs! - desperately waiting for my crypto accounts to hit so I can plan that Heli trip to Alaska!!! Ha ha ha )
Hope you bring your A game...
just for the record, own 5 pairs of skis, and ski them all
skied the 108 WC today,, we got a surprise 8". It was a good day for a comparison, So the new WC 116, is a little more damp/quiet but in the powder in the trees you really notice the width more than anything else. I could have easily skied the WC116 today. the 108 is still a better choice for those 4-6" days though. It is much easier going on the open groomers when traveling or connecting through. I also cant say I noticed any real differences (there is a slight difference with the -7mm from the factory on the WC108) between the mount points on the 2 skis. I Love both
I've been curious to try a triple camber versus the same ski with a traditional camber and see if there's any difference. I doubt Moment will make a one-off just to feed my curiosity!
if you are skiing the WC's I trees and bumps, I dont recommend moving the mount point back ore than 1cm, it will affect the way the ski was designed to work in conjunction with the camber.The Wildcats are more traditional feeling (rocker-low camber-rocker). Still, I feel moving the mount point back will provide a bit better balance and easy in bumps and tight terrain plus more support in the front end, at least at my size and skiing ability.