Any more detail on what modification/improvements allow this to accommodate GW and non GW lugs better? Does the AFD do something special or is it more in concert with the claw/wings too?
Apologies, I only read the first post in THIS thread, I didn't see the link to your detailed write-up. Cheers...Did you read what I wrote?![]()
There's literally nothing special about this binding in this regard - all GW labeled bindings from all binding manufacturers work this way. It's the shape of the binding AFD and boot AFD/sole following the GripWalk dimensions.Any more detail on what modification/improvements allow this to accommodate GW and non GW lugs better? Does the AFD do something special or is it more in concert with the claw/wings too?
Strive 13 demo on both ... if you must have a demo, if not the regular Strive 14.What would you recommend for Stockli laser AR and SR102? Strive 13 demo or Warden 13 mnc demo? TIA
300 grams down from Wardens, is that correct?![]()
Not a big fan of how the Wardens look, although love their performance and on the other hand-love the look of the STH2.
So quite naturally-quite like the Strive.
Sounds good.
Not sure I buy the weight statements if you’re not spinning. People really are complaining about the weight of a Pivot 15/18? It’s what, 1245gm x 2?
Sth2 13 - 1145gm
Sth2 16 - 1222gm
So 60% those for the Strive would put them at
about 690 and 735gms
That type of extreme weight difference could matter.
Did you read the original article?Will the Strive and Strive Demo require new mounting jigs ?
The Strive 14 uses the same brake as the Sth2/Warden.Are the brakes new too, or compatible with say the Sth2 / Warden 13
It is the same as the other multi pivot pivot heels.Can you explain how a triple pivot heel works and what it’s advantages/disadvantages are?
FRONT | REAR | TOE | HEEL | TOTAL | TOTAL | |
Track | Track | + brake | single | both | ||
Warden 13 MNC Demo | 157 | 174 | 393 | 649 | 1373 | 2746 |
with 115 brake | ||||||
Strive 13 Demo | 135 | 118 | 359 | 586 | 1198 | 2396 |
with 100 brake |
Thanks for the update! I was hoping that the new Strive demos would have the same mounting pattern as the Warden 13s so I can just remount using the same holes. So the non-demo Strive 14 and 16 follow the same pattern as the Sth2’s?I now have on hand some new Strive 13 Demo with 100 brake, and new Warden 13 MNC Demo with 115 brake.
Thought I'd weigh the pieces and take some pics for interests sake.
Of Note:
The Warden Demo and Strive Demo use a different mounting pattern.
The Strive's attached mounting instruction paper looks like it uses a common Salomon Jig.
Neither the Warden nor Strive toe-track has a floating screw ( this is typical I think ).
However the Warden heel-track does have a floating screw, while the Strive heel-track does not have a floating screw.
The Warden toe track has a 2mm ABS plate under its metal track, while the Strive toe track does not have any plate under its metal track.
Other than for that 2mm ABS plate, the height of both Warden and Strive toe-tracks is essentially the same.
The Strive's heel-track is lower than the Warden.
Weights are below, which includes the screws, and shows that the Strive is about 350g lighter per pair.
FRONT REAR TOE HEEL TOTAL TOTAL Track Track + brake single both Warden 13 MNC Demo 157 174 393 649 1373 2746with 115 brake Strive 13 Demo 135 118 359 586 1198 2396with 100 brake
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