Any Salomon reps on the forum - question on Salomon SL skis?

[MingDao]

I am wondering about the difference between FIS and PRO versions of their SL skis.
These are respectively:
L41143100 (I S/RACE FIS SL 165) Sidecut 118-65-102 / 13
L41132800 (I S/RACE PRO SL 165) Sidecut 118-65-103 / 13
PRO is wider at the tail by 1mm and slighly different graphics. Both have FIS compliance mark.
I assume PRO is a softer version aimed at Master racers, but I would appreciate if anyone in the know comments.
Many thanks.

 

[crgildart]

@ScotsSkier might be able help here.

 

[hbear]

Not 100% sure, but believe you are right in that the PRO is a softened down version. Similar to how Atomic does it.

 

[MingDao]

Not 100% sure, but believe you are right in that the PRO is a softened down version. Similar to how Atomic does it.

Atomic does not have an equivalent for it, which would be FIS compliant. Both Atomic and Salomon are Amersports brands and produced in the same factory, but they try to differentiate the offerings in attempt to cover broader market. I am interested in Salomon, because I had comments that Salomon PRO SL is more versatile than Atomic S9 (Servotec non FIS).

 

[S.H.]

How are the S9 SLs not FIS compliant?

FIS SL ski rules
min length 155/165 cm (W/M)
min width 63 mm
min tip height 50 mm
max tail height 10 mm

https://assets.fis-ski.com/image/upload/v1591722908/fis-prod/assets/Specifications_for_Alpine_Competition_Equipment_clean_09.06.2020.pdf

servotec skis should fit all these, unless I'm missing something

 

[ScotsSkier]

How are the S9 SLs not FIS compliant?

FIS SL ski rules
min length 155/165 cm (W/M)
min width 63 mm
min tip height 50 mm
max tail height 10 mm

https://assets.fis-ski.com/image/upload/v1591722908/fis-prod/assets/Specifications_for_Alpine_Competition_Equipment_clean_09.06.2020.pdf

servotec skis should fit all these, unless I'm missing something

This! Remember, just because a ski is FIS compliant - by virtue of waist width and/or radius - does NOT make it an FIS ski... and the important thing to remember when considering these non-FIS slaoms v. the FIS slalom is whether or not it is going to be used more than very occasionally in gates. Normally the non-FIS skis doe not stand up to relate gate use (even the FIS ones take a beating in the tip area if you are skiing slalom the way it should be skied but they are more robust)

 

[James]

I don’t know the Soloman product, but it’s probably the same situation-
Get the Atomic Fis Sl vs the non.
Frankly, it’s more fun than the S9 non Fis.
I know people won’t believe this, but the FIS version is easier to ski to. Just tune it at .7 to 1 deg base instead of 0.5degrees.

Obviously these recommendations are for advanced skiers. But, you don’t need to be that advanced, and you don’t have to ski like Marcel to use them, I teach beginners with fis slaloms.

Not the best arena for these Blizzard Fis slaloms at Abasin. You’re doing like 30 on landing in “interesting” odd spring snow.
The weird thing, they’re really fun in spring snow. Learned that from @KingGrump .

 

[crgildart]

I don’t know the Soloman product, but it’s probably the same situation-
Get the Atomic Fis Sl vs the non.
Frankly, it’s more fun than the S9 non Fis.
I know people won’t believe this, but the FIS version is easier to ski to. Just tune it at .7 to 1 deg base instead of 0.5degrees.

Obviously these recommendations are for advanced skiers. But, you don’t need to be that advanced, and you don’t have to ski like Marcel to use them, I teach beginners with fis slaloms.

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Not the best arena for these Blizzard Fis slaloms at Abasin. You’re doing like 30 on landing in “interesting” odd spring snow.
The weird thing, they’re really fun in spring snow. Learned that from @KingGrump .

+1
You can absolutely have fun on high performance race SL skis. (still at .5* base too)

Someone cue up Bode's helicopter video LOL

 

[S.H.]

Someone cue up Bode's helicopter video LOL

BUT THOSE ARE GS SKIS MAN

 

[crgildart]

BUT THOSE ARE GS SKIS MAN

So are THESE MAN.. K2 812s

 

[James]

It’s really too bad Jon Olsson didn’t have a shot at that. Back flip there probably. Corked 720?

 

[Flo]

It reminds me this video of a freestyle coach who was trying a slalom skis for the first time. He had fun with it and was still better than most of us in the park.

 

[James]

It reminds me this video of a freestyle coach who was trying a slalom skis for the first time. He had fun with it and was still better than most of us in the park than most of us.

Fun video. That came up last season. It would definitely take a little time to dial in the response for his tricks. I was hoping he’d hit the pipe.

He’s on the S9 non Fis. You can tell by the rod in the front. Definitely not a “World Cup” ski.
I think he’d like the Fis better, it feels lighter in response, it’s more direct. The non comes in 171. I wasn’t a fan, which surprised me.
Rod-

 

[crgildart]

The best mogul skis are actually GS ski sidecuts.

 

[Swede]

I have some Salomon FIS SL:s of an older vintage (LAB). Same as Atomics FIS SL. I would get the FIS-version and not the PRO because it is a sturdier construction.

 

[Triplet]

I think he’d like the FIS better

FIS to be, @James .

I love this video and my fav part is at 8:35 - "and carving, like a mad man, that way ..."