Atomic Introduces New All-Mountain Maverick and Maven

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I am glad to see Atomic put out this new ski. I have no idea how they ski, but their all mtn product lines did nothing for me. I do see a fair number of them on the hill, but I think its the lower priced models that sell on price, not performance. Hopefully this new ski takes off for them and skis really well. I am looking forward to demo'ing it in the future. It sounds like they put a lot of effort into developing it.

I have one comment to add, I am 99% sure that NO ski company uses pure titanium sheets in their skis. I did check, and it is made in sheets thin enough for skis, but most references to titanium are really mis-quotes of titanal, which is 85% aluminum, with some magnesium, copper, and zinc, and no titanium. There are metal sheets produced with a small percentage of titanium, so a ski manufacturer maybe using one of those. Here is something I found on the web that I believe is accurate info:

Though it sounds like “Titanium,” Titanal is actually an aluminum alloy that includes no Titanium. However, there are other metal laminates that do contain trace amounts of Titanium. When you read a product description that says a ski has a Titanium laminate, that actually means it has an aluminum alloy laminate with only a very small amount of Titanium in it.

Not sure what is in Atomic's new ski, but its a metal sheet and should behave like titanal which is the common metal sheet used in skis.
 

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Ooo, metallurgy! That's a subject I can really get into (since I get paid for selecting materials of construction). I agree, @ScottB, I'm skeptical of titanal being liberally substituted for titanium in ski construction advertising. Especially since titanal has zero Ti in it. Plus, there are dozens of alloys of Ti, and some of them are more costly due to containing high zoot materials like Palladium. Golf club titanium alloys have vanadium and aluminum, and are usually cast rather than rolled. I wonder what the go-to Ti alloy would be for skis? Maybe race skis for WC deserve different Ti laminates?

I'm not here to badmouth Atomic. I ride on Automatics 102 and Vantage 90 Ti, both very good skis. The Vantages have a titanium mesh rather than a solid sheet. I would think a mesh would bond better than an entire flat sheet to the rest of the ski core. A flat laminate must require a very high pressure during the press to get it to bond tightly? I had a hot orange-colored Atomic RC ski delaminate on me in 1978, only time I've ever had a ski just flat out go "sproing!" along the entire ski.

Edge bevel discussions and Atomic skis go hand in hand. Nice to see an Atomic rep (@onenerdykid ) pop their head into the thread.
 
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I bet that these are nice skis and would love to give a pair a try. However, I don’t find the marketing pitch very compelling. Lots of testers and lots of prototypes is a tired old story. And the titanium and omatic core smacks of Austrian BS. Atomic is not coming from a position of strength in this category. Völkl’s new Mantra along with the Kendo and Mantra 102, Blizzard’s bull boards, and all the high priced brands (Stöckli, Kästle, et. al.) building off well-entrenched models with long sales histories make this a tough row to hoe.
 
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Ours were shipped today. Looking forward to adding them to our long term rotation.
 

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If you were a fan of the Ritual/Alibi era, then you will like these :golfclap:
I loved the Blog and the Atlas too. I'd probably enjoy those still, along with the only slightly dated Automatics.
Crimsons still work well too if tuned enough.

Geesh, fact is, I'd root for Atomic great new skis in a heartbeat, given the chance.
 

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Blister compared the Maverick favorably to the Stance 90/96 and Declivity 92 ti. They found the tail on the Maverick a little easier to release and gave it an edge (no pun intended) on the others in carving groomers.

I know some of the testers here have been enjoying the Declivity 92 ti. I can’t wait to hear the reviews on the Maverick.
 

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