Individual Review Blossom AM77 / White Out Quickie

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I got a chance to ski a couple runs on a pair of White Outs (now AM77) @170cm with an excellent tune. Only firm groomers were available, for all the usual New England reasons, so I have no idea about how they ski off piste. However I can say that they are, as advertised, a total hoot. I skied them back to back with my Blossom Follow Me SLs (now the Squadra Corse, I think). This showed how much of a "fat slalom cruiser" the AM 77 really is.

If only because of the 15cm length difference, the AM 77 was significantly more idiot-proof. Turn radius not all that different, with that wide tip in play. SL noticeably quicker edge-to-edge, unsurprisingly. Snow feel was recognizably related, but the SLs had a slight edge here, maybe, in terms of feeling a little quieter and more unshakeable on the firmest patches, as long as the skier is centered.

Short version, if you're not racing there's a good chance you don't need a slalom if you have something like this.

PLUS it was just amazing how well the old topsheet went with my coat. ;)

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I have that exact ski and top sheet....it's awesome and shockingly versatile in non-groomed terrain.
 
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PLUS it was just amazing how well the old topsheet went with my coat. ;)

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First thing I noticed!

I have been out twice on my AM77s. First time was not too good. I moved the bindings forward second time out. That helped. I did a base prep but no tune - seems like I should tweek the edges. I didn't think that would be necessary... typically I do 1 and 2. What do you think?
 
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First thing I noticed!

I have been out twice on my AM77s. First time was not too good. I moved the bindings forward second time out. That helped. I did a base prep but no tune - seems like I should tweek the edges. I didn't think that would be necessary... typically I do 1 and 2. What do you think?
The pair I was on was tuned at 0.7 and 3. And they were sharp. Perfect for New England boilerplate. :)
 

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not a criticism but you shouldn't have to move the bindings forward by 2cm. thats a huge amount and seems like a shorter length would have been a better choice.

I ski the SL's at .7:3. My AM8's are Factory, not sure what they are but the edge hold is superb. @Tony S super glad you are enjoying them so emphatically. they really are skiers' skis. Proof that a ski doesnt have to be burly to perform at a very high level.
 
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not a crtiscsm but you shouldn't have to move the bindings forward by 2cm. thats a huge amount and seems like a shorter length would have been a better choice.

She's between sizes on these. The skis were originally for me but when they arrived she decided they were hers.
 
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She's between sizes on these. The skis were originally for me but when they arrived she decided they were hers.
makes perfect sense! glad she is digging' them :thumb: I dont want people to think they normally need to be moved so far forward. I have found all blossoms to ski correctly at factory (YMMV).
 

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I ski the SL's at .7:3. My AM8's are Factory, not sure what they are but the edge hold is superb. @Tony S super glad you are enjoying them so emphatically. they really are skiers' skis. Proof that a ski doesnt have to be burly to perform at a very high level.
1. 2 degree/ 1 degree works great for me (on every ski I own).

2. In a 170cm there's not that much room to mess with a factory suggested mount IMHO

3. Ron, what do you think of the crosswind/ AM 85?? I think the 178cm could be a pretty exciting crud, roughed-up frontside trail ski.
 

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1. 2 degree/ 1 degree works great for me (on every ski I own).

2. In a 170cm there's not that much room to mess with a factory suggested mount IMHO

3. Ron, what do you think of the crosswind/ AM 85?? I think the 178cm could be a pretty exciting crud, roughed-up frontside trail ski.
Head over to this link. I have been updating my experiences with the AM85. But, yeah, I am really enjoying the ski. I think if I didnt have the no 1 SL, I could just go with a AM77 and call it a day, however, I do find the extra width an advantage in cut up, leftovers and ungroomed terrain. I only have a handful of days on them but a this point, I wouldn't change anything about the ski. This design with virtually no rocker does require a higher level of skill but the benefits on the groomed with quick and positive engagement more than outweigh any possible benefits a slight amount of tip/tail rocker would provide on a 85mm ski. The flex is what allows this ski to punch above what many think a 85mm ski should be able to do and its forgiving enough to allow folks ot use this as an effective learning tool

 
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I better not say how I moved my set-up forward. I'd say it's about 1+cm or so. I think it could be more. Still not sure about the factory edges. Should I set them up at 1 and 2 or something like that, or leave them?
 
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I better not say how I moved my set-up forward. I'd say it's about 1+cm or so. I think it could be more. Still not sure about the factory edges. Should I set them up at 2 and 1 or something like that, or leave them?

I would leave them at Factory 1:2, unless you are skiing a lot of hard snow and need the extra grip. stay over your downhill ski :).
 

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I am loving my AM77 170 cm , The are a good if not perfect east coast every day driver. plenty of grip , good at low speed short turns, and show there stuff in higher speed long turns. I haven't been able to test them in soft ungroomed snow but I am hoping that changes soon.
 
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