Can F.I.S. be an acronym? (FIS)

[Tony Storaro]

Except the full name includes snowboarding now:

FIS Renames As International Ski & Snowboard Federation (Kind Of)

FIS Renames As International Ski & Snowboard Federation (Kind Of)

www.snowindustrynews.com

It is still FIS and not FISS tho.

 

[dbostedo]

So the main thing I've learned in this thread is that anyone says "fiss" rather than "F, I, S" as separate letters ... it's never occurred to me or I've never noticed. Every time I've read or said it, I've read or said F, I, S as separate letters. And I can't recall having heard any TV announcers or anything pronounce it like a word either.

And I thought of another sports example, where I DO always hear it as a word and I say it as a word... FIFA (fee'-fuh).

Weird. No idea why I do one, but the other never even occurred to me.

 

[dbostedo]

In Peru USA is pronounced OO-sa. Probably in many other Spanish speaking countries as well.

True... maybe because the individual letters are a little more awkward to say in Spanish and in English?

In English, U, S, A is 3 syllables and link together easily in pronunciation. In Spanish, U, S, A, is more like "oo, essay, ah", 4 syllables which to me seem awkward to pronounce together.

 

[cantunamunch]

So the main thing I've learned in this thread is that anyone says "fiss" rather than "F, I, S" as separate letters ... it's never occurred to me or I've never noticed. Every time I've read or said it, I've read or said F, I, S as separate letters. And I can't recall having heard any TV announcers or anything pronounce it like a word either.

And I thought of another sports example, where I DO always hear it as a word and I say it as a word... FIFA (fee'-fuh).

Weird. No idea why I do one, but the other never even occurred to me.

Because you grew up with Anglo vowels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift

And consistently breaking those pronunciation patterns for how everyone else says it is apparently hard.

And thus we have F I S and F I A and U C I and I O C but we have WADA and FIFA.

True... maybe because the individual letters are a little more awkward to say in Spanish and in English?

That's just the ones that don't say "Estados Unidos".

 

[dbostedo]

Because you grew up with Anglo vowels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Vowel_Shift

And consistently breaking those pronunciation patterns for how everyone else says it is apparently hard.

And thus we have F I S and F I A and U C I and I O C but we have WADA and FIFA.

That doesn't explain why I never thought to say "fiss", when I do say "fee-fuh".

 

[ScotsSkier]

In 18 years involved in the race world never heard anyone use F.I.S.

 

[wooglin]

True... maybe because the individual letters are a little more awkward to say in Spanish and in English?

In English, U, S, A is 3 syllables and link together easily in pronunciation. In Spanish, U, S, A, is more like "oo, essay, ah", 4 syllables which to me seem awkward to pronounce together.

Its because every letter in Spanish is always pronounced the same way. U is always oo as in boot, S is always sss as in snake, and A is always ah as in "say ah".

 

[cantunamunch]

That doesn't explain why I never thought to say "fiss", when I do say "fee-fuh".

Of course it doesn't - it takes the opposite stance, i.e. 'no one really knows because it's all really random and wilful'.

 

[Sibhusky]

In 18 years involved in the race world never heard anyone use F.I.S.

But, maybe if someone were talking about the organization itself and not a race. I.E., "the F.I.S." as opposed to "FIS races". I don't think people say "the FIS changed the rules", it's "The F.I.S. changed the rules". And "When we go to FIS races", not "When we go to F.I.S. races" or "She raced FIS in high school", not "She raced F. I.S. in high school".

 

[blue]

It's a good question. It's it S Q L? Or is it Sequel. I hear about 50/50..

It’s Sequel. I’ve only heard S Q L from interns, the inexperienced, or English as a second language folks.

 

[fatbob]

I like very much the fact it is FIS and not FISS.
Snowboarders should..

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I think snowboarders would have been just fine if the wankers at FIS hadn't appropriated their sport using the nasty politics of being gatekeepers for the Olympics.

 

[François Pugh]

FIS is okay, fis is not OK. Is it ok or OK or okay?

 

[cantunamunch]

I think snowboarders would have been just fine if the wankers at FIS hadn't appropriated their sport using the nasty politics of being gatekeepers for the Olympics.

In an amusing-to-me turn of events, Lance Armstrong said the exact same thing in one of his podcasts. Except about cycling, the UCI and WADA

 

[Tony S]

So the main thing I've learned in this thread is that anyone says "fiss" rather than "F, I, S" as separate letters ... it's never occurred to me or I've never noticed. Every time I've read or said it, I've read or said F, I, S as separate letters. And I can't recall having heard any TV announcers or anything pronounce it like a word either.

And I thought of another sports example, where I DO always hear it as a word and I say it as a word... FIFA (fee'-fuh).

Weird. No idea why I do one, but the other never even occurred to me.

It's because we - you and I, among others - hang with the skiing hoi polloi. The real race people who know how things are are too busy to burn time standing around taking tourist pictures and noodling down the hill with the likes of us. So we never pick up the lingo.

 

[cantunamunch]

FIS is okay, fis is not OK. Is it ok or OK or okay?

In which country? I've seen it spelled 'Oke' (and it wasn't even in graphic novels)

#USculturalpollution

 

[dbostedo]

It's because we - you and I, among others - hang with the skiing hoi polloi. The real race people who know how things are are too busy to burn time standing around taking tourist pictures and noodling down the hill with the likes of us. So we never pick up the lingo.

But why is the lingo the same for FIFA among coaches/players/announcers/the org itself, and different for FIS - as apparently the general public and announcers/broadcasters don't say it the same way.

I'm not actually looking for an answer, just noting the odd vagaries of lingo and how it spreads or gets used.

 

[cantunamunch]

I'm not actually looking for an answer, just noting the odd vagaries of lingo and how it spreads or gets used.

This reminds me of that old English guy demonstrating coppicing on YouTube.

Take-away quote:
"The dictionary guys say there are two ways to pronounce 'coppice'. The dictionary guys have never seen one and sleep in a brick house, or they'd know the pronounciation is 'copse' "

 

[dbostedo]

copse

But that's a different though sometimes synonymous word.

 

[cantunamunch]

But that's a different though sometimes synonymous word.

only because people who have never seen one started using it as a different word

 

[James]

Use both. Saying “fiss” as opposed to the letters can get lost in a sentence sometimes.
I don’t see it as much of a big deal though.

I generally don't say “fiss slaloms” for the skis for instance.