Comparison Review Demo Bindings and how they compare to their retail counterpart.

[Philpug]

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Please watch the video and add any questions you might have here. And of course hit that bell and subscribe button!

 

[fatbob]

Any drawbacks with Marker of the TCX heel over the Royal heel? Pros like stepping in in fresh snow obvious. Already bought a pair for toolless quiver adjustment but haven't mounted them yet.

Attack heel is almost too easy to step into, kinda doesn't feel it can be secure at first but it is.

 

[Philpug]

Any drawbacks with Marker of the TCX heel over the Royal heel? Pros like stepping in in fresh snow obvious. Already bought a pair for toolless quiver adjustment but haven't mounted them yet.

Valid question but none at all. Case in point, which heel design does Marker use on their race binding?

 

[slidingmike]

I am getting ready to mount some Salomon/Atomic/Stockli X 16 bindings and discovered that they are adjustable like demo bindings. What are your thoughts on these particular binders?

 

[Philpug]

I am getting ready to mount some Salomon/Atomic/Stockli X 16 bindings and discovered that they are adjustable like demo bindings. What are your thoughts on these particular binders?

Not a demo binding per say but a system binding. Great binding for it's application.

 

[KingGrump]

I am getting ready to mount some Salomon/Atomic/Stockli X 16 bindings and discovered that they are adjustable like demo bindings. What are your thoughts on these particular binders?

The Atomic X16 VAR / Salomon Lab 16 bindings are solid bindings.
Have more than 16 pairs. No issues what so ever.

 

[SpeedyKevin]

Great video! Would be interested to get on the SPX ?metrix? and see how the delta and stack height feels compared to the Salmon Strive.

Regarding the SPX, my first ski binding was an SPX12. You could imagine my annoyance when getting a Pivot and realizing how little adjustment range it had in the heel when compared to the SPX's generous 50mm lol.

 

[Philpug]

Great video! Would be interested to get on the SPX ?metrix? and see how the delta and stack height feels compared to the Salmon Strive.

I honestly do not expect a significant difference, a few MM vs a stronger couple will cancel each other out.

You could imagine my annoyance when getting a Pivot and realizing how little adjustment range it had in the heel when compared to the SPX's generous 50mm lol.

One of the quirks of the Pivot is the adjustment range but as I said in the video, any more ... it wouldn't be a Pivot because it will add height and a disconnect. The regular SPX has about 28mm of range, the SPX Test in the video has the 50 mm.

 

[slow-line-fast]

I am getting ready to mount some Salomon/Atomic/Stockli X 16 bindings and discovered that they are adjustable like demo bindings. What are your thoughts on these particular binders?

I have X 12 var on my GS skis, all good on hardpack, in gates. No problems. I haven’t tried adjusting as it felt that the mount position was good.

 

[Jwrags]

I honestly do not expect a significant difference, a few MM vs a stronger couple will cancel each other out.


One of the quirks of the Pivot is the adjustment range but as I said in the video, any more ... it wouldn't be a Pivot because it will add height and a disconnect. The regular SPX has about 28mm of range, the SPX Test in the video has the 50 mm.

About flexibility in adjustment does a Pivot actually have? My son and I were just talking about this very thing this morning.

 

[slow-line-fast]

About flexibility in adjustment does a Pivot actually have? My son and I were just talking about this very thing this morning.

Plenty with a drill bit, some wood glue, and plastic plugs for the old holes

 

[Philpug]

About flexibility in adjustment does a Pivot actually have? My son and I were just talking about this very thing this morning.

about 8mm barely a shell size.

 

[Jwrags]

about 8mm barely a shell size.

Thank you.

 

[freeskier1961]

Marker Griffon black demo 2021 similar to retail? weight ramp etc

thanks

 

[Philpug]

Marker Griffon black demo 2021 similar to retail? weight ramp etc

thanks

You can find those numbers here...

Comparison Review - 2023 Marker Bindings

Marker 2023 Bindings MODEL TOE HEIGHT (mm) HEEL HEIGHT (mm) SETTING RANGE WEIGHT (g/pr) STANDARD BRAKE SIZES (mm) OPTIONAL BRAKE SIZES (mm) SOLE COMPATIBILITY 10.0 TP 19 24 3-10 1518 85, 100 DIN, GripWalk X-Comp 12 GW 15 18 4-12 2368 75 90 DIN, GripWalk X-Comp 16 GW 15 18 6-16 2398...

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[freeskier1961]

thanks

 

[SkiMore]

Do demo bindings offer the ability to play around with mount point without redrilling? I think the answer is no, but was curious if one should shift the BSL setting forward/backward 1 setting.

 

[Philpug]

Do demo bindings offer the ability to play around with mount point without redrilling? I think the answer is no, but was curious if one should shift the BSL setting forward/backward 1 setting.

Yes you can.