I haven't heard anything negative unless too much liquid was injected. Our rep uses it. I have a kit that I'll try out for fun next week.
I certainly wouldn't want a plug boot if I only planned on skiing with 1 pair . I also use the new dalbello drs wc s plug boot . 2 different animals .
Speaking of 140 Raptors-someone pls school me on LiquidFit. Is it absolutely necessary for the shop/fitter to carry them fancy injections and stuff so they can do the fitting or can you just heat mold them and be good to go?
The new Zipfit Gara LV and HV models are neoprene. Conversely, the World Cup Sidewinder and Corsa models are leather, with the Corsa being all leather and the WCSW being leather with a neoprene tongue.
I have the WCR 140s with the new Zipit Corsa liners. I highly recommend the combo. If they are too stiff, just have your bootfitter (or you can do it yourself if you are so inclined) soften them. Not difficult to do.
I've been skiing WCR 140s for a few years & love them. I ski them with the spine bolts at the 130 flex position. I'm at a point where I'd like a bit softer flex - like 120 or so.The new Zipfit Gara LV and HV models are neoprene. Conversely, the World Cup Sidewinder and Corsa models are leather, with the Corsa being all leather and the WCSW being leather with a neoprene tongue.
I have the WCR 140s with the new Zipit Corsa liners. I highly recommend the combo. If they are too stiff, just have your bootfitter (or you can do it yourself if you are so inclined) soften them. Not difficult to do.
Sorry, I stand corrected. I knew that a leather Gara was available in the past, but did not know there was a way to still acquire them.
My thought was that if the op went to Zipfit's website, he wouldn't see a leather Gara version available. Are the ones you show NOS?
To soften them, it takes a bit of trimming. This video is the best one I've found showing how to perform the "operation." Hope it is helpful!
"I know a guy who knows a guy whose brother-in-law can get you..."Although there is a dealer stateside that brings them in.
FWIW I don't think @chris_the_wrench had a very positive experience with the liquid fit approach. Maybe he'll chime in.
Sounds great! Thanks for your story! Based on your description, I think the 120 flex should work well for me. Headracingcanada offers 24% off for Raptor WCR120. I'm placing the order.I've had both the Formula 130 and the Raptor wcr 120.
The Formulas were ever really a fit. Too much space around the ankle, but I insisted on trying them lol (Bootfitter: "You're not gonna like it." Me: "Let's try it!")
I use the liquid fit both times, but still wound up needing some retention pads. I liked the edge to edge of the Formulas and the flex and power transmission was not bad for a grilamid type boot.
Switched to the 120 Raptors and man! Love real plastic!! The flex is so nice, smooth, progressive and no dead spot at the end like the heat moldable shells. Really skis smooth. I can't ski very fast any more, mostly SL skis and coaching, so leave the flex around 120 (6'1" 210lbs).
I may pop in the 2nd rivet next year, as I've started locking down the boots a bit more as I recover/strengthen.
But I can't say enough about how accessible the new raptor wcr boots are for free skiing and general use. Great rebound, sucks up the static in nad snow or bumpy surprises. Warm too, like quite warm and pain free skiing.
But liquid fit didn't provide enough heel hold for me - but wouldn't trade these new boots, nope.