Cage Match Comparison Head Wild Joy vs Renoun Z-90

[surfsnowgirl]

Awesome. Although I prefer unisex or men's skis I'm definitely not opposed to ladies skis. My Kenjas and Santa Anas are ladies skis so I do try to keep an open mind. I'd definitely give the Wild Joy and Great Joy a whirl if I came across them on a demo day. Kore 93 sounds pretty good too.

 

[VickiK]

Don't know about y'all but I find it so hard to keep the adjectives straight - Super Wild Pure Great Absolute - so much easier if less exuberant are numbers, Flair 81, Experience 98, etc. I mean, it's not the end of the world, but with the Head Joy line, I keep having to look up which one is which. Thanks to @SkiEssentials , here's another cheat sheet peak at the line.

Super Joy

• Turn Radius: 12.5 meters at 163 cm
• Sidecut: 128/75/108 mm at 163 cm
• Ability Level: Advanced to Expert Skiers

Absolute Joy

• Turn Radius: 13.5 meters at 163 cm
• Sidecut: 129/79/109 mm
• Ability Level: Intermediate Women Skiers

Wild Joy

• Turn Radius: 14.4 meters at 168 cm
• Sidecut: 139/90/119 mm
• Ability Level: Advanced to Expert Women Skiers

Great Joy

• Turn Radius: 14.3 meters at 168 cm
• Sidecut: 141/98/124 mm
• Ability Level: Advanced to Expert Women Skiers

 

[surfsnowgirl]

Ah marketing.... Isn't it grand.

Wasn't there a wider joy than the great joy, gone now? is the total joy gone from the lineup?

 

[Tricia]

Ah marketing.... Isn't it grand.

Wasn't there a wider joy than the great joy, gone now? is the total joy gone from the lineup?

The Big Joy, it was 108 underfoot, but it didn't sell as strongly as they thought it would, finding that most women going to that size would also consider the Kore 105.

 

[Lady_Salina]

The Big Joy, it was 108 underfoot, but it didn't sell as strongly as they thought it would, finding that most women going to that size would also consider the Kore 105.

I'm not totally surprised to see the big joy gone. I know I found it just a little too geared to one use, The epic powder day and even then, my Great Joy is all I've needed to date to manage the powder in my frame, size, ski style. When I have tried larger/widerr skis on the powder I actually felt I had too much float, couldn't sink the board down to porpoise back out, very surfy, making it harder to control. I have only tried mens boards in the bigger sizes though and they may be just too long or stiff.

 

[Tricia]

I'm not totally surprised to see the big joy gone. I know I found it just a little too geared to one use, The epic powder day and even then, my Great Joy is all I've needed to date to manage the powder in my frame, size, ski style. When I have tried larger/widerr skis on the powder I actually felt I had too much float, couldn't sink the board down to porpoise back out, very surfy, making it harder to control. I have only tried mens boards in the bigger sizes though and they may be just too long or stiff.

I really liked the Big Joy at Snowbird in deep snow on steeps, reminded me a little of my Dakota love, but then the Dakota went away too.

People seem to be buying skis for the snow we get, instead of the snow we hope to get.

 

[Started at 53]

People seem to be buying skis for the snow we get, instead of the snow we hope to get.

Buying things for the snow we get?????

Maybe this should be a mountain bike thread then

It just needs to freaking snow already

 

[Tricia]

Buying things for the snow we get?????

All joking aside, that is one of the questions I often ask a customer when I'm helping out at a ski shop.

Are you looking for a ski to ski well in the conditions you really ski, or the conditions you want to ski?

Quite often, that question brings the customer to a reality check and they start to ponder skiing well instead of ....well, you know.

 

[VickiK]

To clarify my list up there ^, it wasn't the whole Head Joy line up.

 

[Dwight]

Define “playful”

Playful for me/kid = easier to pivot vs carving, a little more flex. Easier to ski in a natural half pipe terrain.

 

[Tricia]

To clarify my list up there ^, it wasn't the whole Head Joy line up.

No, but the Big Joy has been taken out of the lineup.

 

[Slim]

Define “playful”

Good point. Playful is brought up a lot in ski reviews, but the word can mean so many different things, here are a few I can think of.

• Good for big jumps(stable at high speed take off and landing)
• Good for spinning (light, short, center mounted)
• Poppy
• Easy to butter (soft tips and tails)
• Easy to smear and pivot
• ‘Bouncy’ from turn to turn
• Good for skiing switch (twin tips, center mount)

 

[Tricia]

I think I need a ski around this width...

When we ski together, which I hope is soon, I will be happy to set you up to demo the Renoun. The Wild Joy was part of a test fleet we had for a few months, but was sent back to Head.

 

[luliski]

When we ski together, which I hope is soon, I will be happy to set you up to demo the Renoun. The Wild Joy was part of a test fleet we had for a few months, but was sent back to Head.

That would be wonderful. I am intrigued by the Renoun, and I'm gueessing the Wild Joys ski much like my Great Joys anyway.

 

[Tricia]

That would be wonderful. I am intrigued by the Renoun, and I'm gueessing the Wild Joys ski much like my Great Joys anyway.

Like the Great Joys with sass.
But, yeah, I'd love to get you on the Renouns. Its what I do.

 

[Tricia]

Head Wild Joy vs Bizzard Black Pearl?

Your wish has been granted.
http://bit.ly/BP88vsHWJ

 

[surfsnowgirl]

Just came across this thread when I was looking for intel on the wild joy. I just came across a pair for sale and was offered a deal on them. The price is right so I think I'm going to get them. My new favorite width is 85-95 underfoot. I've fallen in love with my Renoun Z90s and think the Wild Joys now sound pretty awesome. My older Kenjas/Kendos are aging out so I've been on the quest to find comparable skis in this width range. I'll keep the WIld Joys/Z90s at Magic/Bromley.