I have so much trouble on my 68 underfoot vs my 78 underfoot "carvy skis" on moguls, they hook up faster than I'm ready to. In powder or crud, my skis also feel stuck. I suppose I need to be more patient with my turns in these situations?
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I have a confession (in praise of short carvy skis)
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Finesse is underrated . Ski smoother, ski longer. If you are lucky enough to ski long enough, it’s all you have at a certain point.
Plenty of time to get the “ flow”down.
or mounting point is off. my new slalom skis were very unpredictable till @KingGrump told me "you used the wrong holes on the plate!" Was able to compensate with VAR and they loved moguls after that.
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Yup, damn good skier, and maybe I'm missing something, but why is he dragging the living daylights out of his uphill poles?
Drag it hard enough and you turn
And patience and not stiff legs and especially smoothness. I found by trial and error (mostly error) that crud and deeper slush/soft skied out stuff punishes sudden movements and jerks way more on fis sl skis. Super important that tails follow the tips or else you end up on your ass pronto.
Yeah second @KingGrump and @Tony Storaro . Trying to mash skinny little skis in short turns in rough stuff is downright masochistic. Open up the turn shape, get some momentum and ride it out. Relax a little , engage later release earlier . it may not be the perfect tool for this job but learning how to adapt to varying conditions is a valuable skill. For the record, I prefer skinny skis but not in crud if I have the choice.
I agree that turn shape matters - a great deal (and the slope), but what those shapes look like are determined a lot by the speed you are going - or is it the other way around ?
Easy to bog down if you try to make too tight of a turn at slow speed in crud.
If your moving faster you can tighten it up a lot more.
Easy to bog down if you try to make too tight of a turn at slow speed in crud.
If your moving faster you can tighten it up a lot more.
Call me a masochist then Dan : )
One of my favorite sessions this year was going laps on an easy green run with a warming 4 inches of crud with the Pros in as deep and tight as they could go.
It's different when you have 9 inches, or even 7 inches. 
You can't go too tight or things can go sideways. Some things (e.g.,carving skis) were not made to go sideways when deep.
You can't go too tight or things can go sideways. Some things (e.g.,carving skis) were not made to go sideways when deep.
Skiing starts in the head. You gotta believe or it ain't gonna happen.
Mid May 2014. Flew my son out to SLC to join us at the Bird after school closed. He was 19 yr old, 5'/10", #185. Riding his usual all mountain ski - Atomic FIS SL 157.
18" f heavy crud dropped out of the sky. I was on a pair of Gotama (106) 186 cm. He ran me down. It's all in the skill set.