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[chris_the_wrench]

Well I had Astros in 5, lost that one, and I had the Phillies scoring less than 13.5 runs for the series, lost that one too. Oh well. It was an ok series for a non-partisan fan. That shot by Alavrez was awesome, just when it looked like the Phillies had a bit of momentum. I question(after is always easier) several of the Phillies pitching moves.

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[James]

I wouldn't have removed Wheeler after only one single

I agree, but in the end it’s hard to win scoring one run. Phillies were doomed, like the Yankees, by not hitting. They even got no hit, the first time since 1956.

 

[Philpug]

I agree, but in the end it’s hard to win scoring one run. Phillies were doomed, like the Yankees, by not hitting. They even got no hit, the first time since 1956.

Astros pitchers were lights out in the whole post season. IMHO this is where relying on the home run and not manufacturing runs has it's shortcomings.

 

[James]

Schwarber bunting and striking out with two strikes in the 9th sums up the Phillies offense.

 

[Marker]

I agree, but in the end it’s hard to win scoring one run. Phillies were doomed, like the Yankees, by not hitting. They even got no hit, the first time since 1956.

They were inches away from good hits and even home runs in the last two games, but as they say, it's a game of inches.

 

[chris_the_wrench]

Schwarber bunting and striking out with two strikes in the 9th sums up the Phillies offense.

Eighth.

I was like ‘what the f’ is he doing??’ when that happened! Did that come from the bench or somewhere in his own thought process?? I understand with the shift a leftie bunting down the vacant 3rd base line, but on 2 strikes??

Although, if he lays that down for a single. Then they get a bit of a two out rally going, we’d be calling him a freaking baseball genius!!!

 

[James]

Although, if he lays that down for a single. Then they get a bit of a two out rally going, we’d be calling him a freaking baseball genius!!!

You’re right, 8th inning. Just too depressing, pretty much was over there. Bunting to an open side doesn’t get you genius status. It should be obvious when you need 3 runs.

 

[crgildart]

The Phillies blew it by not fashioning proper rally caps in the dugout..

 

[locknload]

I had the Astros all the way b/c of their pitching. Phillies did ok but couldn't overcome the staff of the Stros. Hate the Stros, but I love Dusty and met him in DC a few years ago...nicest guy you'll ever meet. I'm happy for him.

 

[Marker]

I had the Astros all the way b/c of their pitching. Phillies did ok but couldn't overcome the staff of the Stros. Hate the Stros, but I love Dusty and met him in DC a few years ago...nicest guy you'll ever meet. I'm happy for him.

Yes, I'm happy for Dusty Baker but there are a lot of nice guys that never get a chance at all for a championship or as many as he got. The Phillies were streaky all year and their three week run ran out after the 5 homer game. Until then their top pitchers were doing quite well and good enough to win it all.

Although I'm from Dallas, I was in college in Houston during the 1980 Phillies-Astros NL series, so I don't have any real hatred for the Astros despite the cheating scandal. I'm not a fan of particular players that were involved in that, but most of this squad had nothing to do with it.

 

[chris_the_wrench]

but most of this squad had nothing to do with it.

The Fox broadcasters were really beating that drum!

 

[James]

The Fox broadcasters were really beating that drum!

We need a mute button for John Smolz. Never shuts up. Endless blather.

 

[Jim McDonald]

We don't need a reminder every 5 minutes that he is "the Hall of Famer"

 

[locknload]

Yes, I'm happy for Dusty Baker but there are a lot of nice guys that never get a chance at all for a championship or as many as he got. The Phillies were streaky all year and their three week run ran out after the 5 homer game. Until then their top pitchers were doing quite well and good enough to win it all.

Although I'm from Dallas, I was in college in Houston during the 1980 Phillies-Astros NL series, so I don't have any real hatred for the Astros despite the cheating scandal. I'm not a fan of particular players that were involved in that, but most of this squad had nothing to do with it.

I totally get that MOST of the players on the Stros that were involved are gone...but Altuve, Gurriel and Bregman were. Mostly, it was how pervasive it was across the leadership of the organization. Its done and behind us but I have no reason to root for the Stros and, again, was just pulling for Dusty. I believe baseball is more prone to the vagaries of chance than many other sports and just b/c Dusty has had multiple chances to win it all...a lot of things have to go right. They finally did AND the Stros used him to restore their credibility and he didn't seem to be able to get rehired after the Nats didn't renew him (I'm a Nats fan) so he took the only job that would hire him and won it all. I think that's a very cool vindication story.

 

[Philpug]

I totally get that MOST of the players on the Stros that were involved are gone...but Altuve, Gurriel and Bregman were. Mostly, it was how pervasive it was across the leadership of the organization. Its done and behind us but I have no reason to root for the Stros and, again, was just pulling for Dusty. I believe baseball is more prone to the vagaries of chance than many other sports and just b/c Dusty has had multiple chances to win it all...a lot of things have to go right. They finally did AND the Stros used him to restore their credibility and he didn't seem to be able to get rehired after the Nats didn't renew him (I'm a Nats fan) so he took the only job that would hire him and won it all. I think that's a very cool vindication story.

I cannot disagree with any of what you said.

 

[Jim McDonald]

I would be very happy for Dusty has his first act as Astros manager been to permanently bench Buzzer Boy & Bregman.
He didn't, so I have zero interest in celebrating him as a WS winner.

 

[James]

Altuve, Gurriel and Bregman

Don’t forget Verlander. He’s now a free agent.

 

[locknload]

Don’t forget Verlander. He’s now a free agent.

Aaah yes! However he didn't benefit from trash-can clanging. He also opt out in the first minute he was able to...lol.

 

[locknload]

I would be very happy for Dusty has his first act as Astros manager been to permanently bench Buzzer Boy & Bregman.
He didn't, so I have zero interest in celebrating him as a WS winner.

Cmon really? Seems like a strange thing to blame Dusty for....but whatever.

 

[James]

Aaah yes! However he didn't benefit from trash-can clanging. He also opt out in the first minute he was able to...lol.

Chris Russo’s rant at the time on Verlander was pretty good on that.