The Ukrainian built Fischers have been hit or miss for me for the out of the wrapper tunes. The stuff coming out of Austria is quite good.Factory tunes on Fischers always seem good. (Kills me to spend money on a grind with a brand new ski.) Add in a reasonable starting price on and it seems like a big win. Been wanting to try these, just because I often like the "one step down, one step narrower" ski in these quasi frontside lineups.