Not sure how that is going to make my boots more flexible but hey if I can build up my quads to the point where I just rip my lower leg out of my boot and leave my foot in the shell that might work just once....
Not sure how that is going to make my boots more flexible but hey if I can build up my quads to the point where I just rip my lower leg out of my boot and leave my foot in the shell that might work just once....
I have lace-up liners and I am willing to go in/out with them on.
Lace up liners are meant to be used that way and most liners will probably be packed out before the wear and tear becomes an issue anyway.I was always under the impression ski boot liners aren't well suited for the wear and tear of constant removal and reinsertion. Are newer liners better about this?
And, your excerpted quote really seems to need this:
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I wonder whether they have people to pull one's boots off at the Yellowstone Club? Now THAT would be service!
I have lace-up liners and I am willing to go in/out with them on. When you use the UHMW tape do you just tape the shell and bootboard or do you put a strip on the liner down by the heel? Would gaffer tape work better on the liner with UHMW tape on the shell? Also do you put the UHMW strip down the entire back of the of the shell from top to bottom or how far down the shell do you start?
Ermmm..dunno about that. Skied in them down to -20C and while they do stiffen up I do not remember struggling excessively removing them-both with stock liners and ZipFits.
I hear quite a few horror stories about Raptors tho...
Yup, that would help avoid the hernia (provided you take your time building up strength so it doesn't give you one instead), but it won't help with the broken foot.Not sure how that is going to make my boots more flexible but hey if I can build up my quads to the point where I just rip my lower leg out of my boot and leave my foot in the shell that might work just once....
Skied both the Raptor 140 and Lange RS130 (current boot) extensively and can attest the Raptor is vice like in the cold (needs to warm up before taking off) while the Lange is no issue at all. Lange also skis significantly softer as well.
I guess it's all relative because I struggle getting my RS 120s off in the cold. I would not want anything much more difficult.Skied both the Raptor 140 and Lange RS130 (current boot) extensively and can attest the Raptor is vice like in the cold (needs to warm up before taking off) while the Lange is no issue at all. Lange also skis significantly softer as well.
Skied both the Raptor 140 and Lange RS130 (current boot) extensively and can attest the Raptor is vice like in the cold (needs to warm up before taking off) while the Lange is no issue at all. Lange also skis significantly softer as well.
I guess it's all relative because I struggle getting my RS 120s off in the cold. I would not want anything much more difficult.
I was always under the impression ski boot liners aren't well suited for the wear and tear of constant removal and reinsertion. Are newer liners better about this?
For sure, that's why I used Raptor 140 vs B3 or WCR4. Similar to using the RS130 for the Lange vs. the ZA.Be careful about generalizing all Raptors. Like any boot manufacturer, Head uses the Raptor name across many different models that may use different plastics. There are Raptors that have plastic that does become "vise like" in colder temps, but there are others that do not. My B2 RD and B3 RD Raptors are much easier to get in/out than my 130 RS or 140 RS.
You still need to be careful and use tape, boothorn etc to reduce the tear and wear to the liner.
Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions.
Noodler I ordered some UHMW tape that should be here by Friday. Going to line the back of my shell and bootboard with it. I will also use my boothorn to get into the boot hopefully that will protect the tape from coming off while putting the boot on. I will also be putting the boot on "racer style" and just keep an eye on the heel part for any excessive wear.
Andy thanks for the video I don't think my boots will flex that much on a 80 degree day in the sun. Your technique is exactly how I take them off but as soon as my instep starts pressing against the top of the shell that is where I resort back to my Navy days of cussing like a sailor.