Maybe the Nordica Navigator 85 isn't the ski for me after all...

[mdf]

I still love the way they ski. Great in bumps, groomers, even powder. I love the way the real tail holds on to the end of the turn when you ask it to.

But.... I wore the last pair out in 80 days of skiing. I've skied the new pair for 9 days and most of the camber is gone.

 

[KingGrump]

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[James]

Say it ain’t so Joe!
Sounds like a warranty issue.

 

[Unpiste]

Ehh… last time I tried a new pair of skis, they only lasted two days.

 

[Philpug]

Ehh… last time I tried a new pair of skis, they only lasted two days.

And that's the last time without a CC deposit.

@mdf's "80 days" is like 120 or even 160 fo normal skiers since he skis bell to bell most days. We have to remember too, the Nav 85 is just a $549 ski...it does have limitations which I beleive Mike as indeed maxed out. As far as the camber being gone after 8 days on these, IIRC, Navigators didn't have a ton to start with.

 

[Dwight]

If only there was a garage close by that you sample skis.

 

[James]

@mdf's "80 days" is like 120 or even 160 fo normal skiers since he skis bell to bell most days. We have to remember too, the Nav 85 is just a $549 ski...it does have limitations which I beleive Mike as indeed maxed out. As far as the camber being gone after 8 days on these, IIRC, Navigators didn't have a ton to start with.

Now he’s going to go back to the Coombas!
They probably had 200 days. Wouldn’t surprise me if he had a pair in the closet next to the never used SX 92’s in there.

 

[dbostedo]

And that's the last time without a CC deposit.

@mdf's "80 days" is like 120 or even 160 fo normal skiers since he skis bell to bell most days. We have to remember too, the Nav 85 is just a $549 ski...it does have limitations which I beleive Mike as indeed maxed out. As far as the camber being gone after 8 days on these, IIRC, Navigators didn't have a ton to start with.

You should have lent him the Augment AM98's...

 

[Philpug]

Sold - 2021 Liberty Evolv 84 179cm w/ Warden Demo $375

Read review HERE. Recent Smoothrides tune

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And I can bring them to Mammoth.

 

[ScottB]

@mdf,

Maybe you should try a Stockli Laser AX, they are supposed to last a long time due to their construction.

Get the 175's this time.

 

[KingGrump]

If only there was a garage close by that you sample skis.

He's out on Mamie's FIS SL 157 today. Them puppies will be OK. He, OTOH, TBD.

 

[ScottB]

https://www.SkiTalk.com/threads/2021-liberty-evolv-84-179cm-w-warden-demo-375.23174/

And I can bring them to Mammoth.

On a serious note, those look like perfect replacements for a Navigator 85 ski. Excellent price too. If I was "like Mike" I would jump on em. I have the Liberty Origin 96's and love em.

 

[ScottB]

He's out on Mamie's FIS SL 157 today. Them puppies will be OK. He, OTOH, TBD.

Did he switch skis with Tony???

 

[mdf]

I wish I had taken a photo of the camber when new, rather than relying on fuzzy memory.

The SL are great so f
AR, but about to start bumps.

Sent to you from the Mammoth gondola.

 

[Unpiste]

The SL are great so f
AR, but about to start bumps.

Sounds like you might have already hit one?

Eagerly awaiting your report…

 

[tball]

I wish I had taken a photo of the camber when new, rather than relying on fuzzy memory.

I just checked my fleet, and they don't have much camber, even new.

My 172 80's have ~75 days and still have camber on one ski. The other is a little bent. Oops, I didn't realize that (thanks for making me look). They still ski fine other than hard groomers. Why would I do that anyway?

My 179 90's have about ten days and look great and feel new on the snow.

The camber on all except for the bent ski look similar (not much camber) to my third pair, 179 80's I accidentally bought that only have a half-day on them. They came with system bindings rather than flat because I wasn't paying attention, so they got lost in my basement for a year or so until I recently discovered them a month ago. My 172 80's needed a tune so I skied the brand new 179 80's instead one morning. I didn't like them. Not sure if it was the length or stupid bindings, but I was happy to get back on my well-worn 172 80's for the afternoon.

 

[mdf]

Sounds like you might have already hit one?

Eagerly awaiting your report…

SL good in the bumps too. Suncups are borderline terrifying.

 

[mdf]

https://www.SkiTalk.com/threads/2021-liberty-evolv-84-179cm-w-warden-demo-375.23174/

And I can bring them to Mammoth.

I'm always interested in trying your suggestions.

 

[Tony S]

I'm always interested in trying your suggestions.

I tried the 90 and they were great. You should definitely try them.

 

[James]

He's out on Mamie's FIS SL 157 today.

Woah now...
Quiver time.