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Men’s World Cup 2021
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Oldie (2018) but goodie. Why they keep coming in Norway.
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That's probably it until Levi 
The Ski Team That Sleeps Together Wins a Lot of Gold Medals Together (Published 2018)
Norway’s skiers say their team’s ability to punch above its weight on the mountain is directly related to its team harmony. Sometimes they share beds.
Kilde tested positive on virus. There's still plenty of time before first speed races but as I'm sure he would be starting some gs to help him defend last seasons title, this might already decide one part of the battle.
Big part of some other team is in quarantine at the moment too, as one of racers tested positive and big part of men and women team were training together last week.
I have somehow feeling this season will either be canceled or rules will change and positive tests won't matter anymore. I doubt there's third option everyone were going for at start of season.
Big part of some other team is in quarantine at the moment too, as one of racers tested positive and big part of men and women team were training together last week.
I have somehow feeling this season will either be canceled or rules will change and positive tests won't matter anymore. I doubt there's third option everyone were going for at start of season.
Wouldn't the third option be to just quarantine the particular racers or teams that test positive even if they miss races? Why would it have to be an all or nothing, either ignore positive tests or cancel the season, kind of thing?
That is current option for which I think it won't work. As I wrote, big part of one team is quarantine at the moment. Considering Kilde tested positive, most likely half of Norwegian team is quarantine... that's already 2 big teams out. Now since there were some other teams in same place as first team, it might be someone else is also in quarantine (no info on that yet). If someone in race tests positive, pretty much whole tour goes into quarantine. So I don't think this option is actually sustainable if you want to go through with the season. But let's wait and see.
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This is sad news but not surprising. Hope all who are infected pull through without complications.
Can anyone translate this or give a synopsis in English?
Fuego cruzado de Kristoffersen y Braathen tras el gigante de Soelden
Los noruegos Lucas Braathen y Henrik Kristoffersen han mantenido un fuego cruzado de declaraciones después de la victoria del primero en el gigante...
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You can use Chrome which will do it automatically, or go straight to Google translate.... here's the link with that article translated:Can anyone translate this or give a synopsis in English?
Fuego cruzado de Kristoffersen y Braathen tras el gigante de Soelden
Los noruegos Lucas Braathen y Henrik Kristoffersen han mantenido un fuego cruzado de declaraciones después de la victoria del primero en el gigante...
Fuego cruzado de Kristoffersen y Braathen tras el gigante de Soelden
Los noruegos Lucas Braathen y Henrik Kristoffersen han mantenido un fuego cruzado de declaraciones después de la victoria del primero en el gigante...
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Thanks! Very clear translation.You can use Chrome which will do it automatically, or go straight to Google translate.... here's the link with that article translated:
Fuego cruzado de Kristoffersen y Braathen tras el gigante de Soelden
Los noruegos Lucas Braathen y Henrik Kristoffersen han mantenido un fuego cruzado de declaraciones después de la victoria del primero en el gigante...
Poor Henrik still hasn’t grown up
Just accept positives? Wow.
Skiing is not the only sport affected. Some other examples where individuals have been required to isolate whilst their sport continued without them:
- In MotoGP Valientino Rossi
- In F1 Sergio Perez
- In golf Adam Scott (former #1 and 2013 US Masters winner)
- In football Cristiano Ronaldo
Well yes, either that or say we are done until further notice. It's hard to compare skiing WC with F1, MotoGP or NBA. With any of these sports, you can provide total isolation. Not nice thing, but it can be done. With skiing, it's simply not possible. Skiing being irrelevant sport with just a very small fraction of money compared to previously mentioned sports doesn't help either.
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Thanks! Very clear translation.
Poor Henrik still hasn’t grown up
Nope. He was a member of my son's club, until they asked him and his father to leave.
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COVID-19 has affected athletes in UCI Pro Tour cycling, which is a comparable logistical challenge to the FIS Alpine World Cup. Look at the Giro d'Italia, where two of the favorites (Simon Yates and Steven Kruijswijk) contracted the virus, and the latter's team decided to completely withdraw from the event after a further four team staffers tested positive. Yet the race continued without these athletes (though they had no chance of returning to the Giro, they could return to UCI events after recovery and two negative tests).
But I'm guessing things will get worse and the World Cup may have to pull the plug. The bubbles in which the teams, technicians, FIS staff, and media exist in have so many vectors, so many chances for infection. The travel, even restricted to Europe only, has issues. And countries are locking down. Both the aforementioned Giro d'Italia and the Vuelta a España have had to re-route their parcours to avoid France due to lockdowns.
It's not a normal season. We'll see what happens.
@Rudi Riet agree about TdF/Giro/Vuelta, but it's still slightly different then skiing. Cycling is more like xc skiing for example, where you can actually make some sort of isolation, even though I was actually surprised with TdF and all the people on climbs that there were no complications. But at time of TdF, real second wave in Europe was not here yet. We are just starting that now, and now, I'm pretty sure things would be different.
Anyway, with cycling or xc skiing, you can go out and train basically on your own, with closed group and noone around. For races, it's no (big) problem to close hotel and have only teams in one, journalists in the other one, organizers in third etc. and on slope you can somehow maintain this, even though on gondolas it's already hard not to mix different people. As soon as racing weekend ends, all this is gone. It's impossible to train on closed hills with noone else around. It's impossible for organizers to isolate for 6 months, and it's also impossible for racers to isolate for 6 months especially when they need to train in public slopes, use gondolas (currently we are still in time when most of skiing is done on glaciers which means either access trams or gondolas for 50+ people and few 100m queue on bottom station) etc. Another issue is that most of teams train together. With cycling you can have people training on their own, with skiing not so much. And when one guy tests positive, whole team is out, and in current time (and training), it's not just one team, but normally 2 or 3 teams, as it's normal, even in current situation, that different teams train together. In worse case, you can easily have 2 or 3 positive and 80% WC teams are in quarantine.
So honestly I just don't see this working. But yes, as you said, let's wait and see what happens. I hope for the best, but honestly don't have much expectations.
Anyway, with cycling or xc skiing, you can go out and train basically on your own, with closed group and noone around. For races, it's no (big) problem to close hotel and have only teams in one, journalists in the other one, organizers in third etc. and on slope you can somehow maintain this, even though on gondolas it's already hard not to mix different people. As soon as racing weekend ends, all this is gone. It's impossible to train on closed hills with noone else around. It's impossible for organizers to isolate for 6 months, and it's also impossible for racers to isolate for 6 months especially when they need to train in public slopes, use gondolas (currently we are still in time when most of skiing is done on glaciers which means either access trams or gondolas for 50+ people and few 100m queue on bottom station) etc. Another issue is that most of teams train together. With cycling you can have people training on their own, with skiing not so much. And when one guy tests positive, whole team is out, and in current time (and training), it's not just one team, but normally 2 or 3 teams, as it's normal, even in current situation, that different teams train together. In worse case, you can easily have 2 or 3 positive and 80% WC teams are in quarantine.
So honestly I just don't see this working. But yes, as you said, let's wait and see what happens. I hope for the best, but honestly don't have much expectations.
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Parallel postponed...
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Lech/Zuers program changed
On Wednesday, the FIS announced an updated program for the World Cup parallel events in Lech/Zuers, pushing the event back two weeks. A statement from the FIS reads as follows: This is to inform you that after careful consideration with all stakeholders, due to lack of snow and high...
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Marco Schwarz tested positive for corona and is out of Lech PGS. Different country different rules, so Austrian team can be on start without any issues.
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New, streamlined World Cup parallel format to debut this week
After a tumultuous 2019-20 season characterized by crapshoot results and public complaints from athletes, the World Cup parallel season returns with men’s and women’s races this Thursday and Friday, after a successful two week postponement to allow snow conditions to improve at Lech/Zürs...
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^^^
The phrase "successful two week postponement" made me laugh... I thought "What would an unsuccesful postponement be? They tried to postpone it, but somehow the event still went off? How do you fail a postponement?"
The phrase "successful two week postponement" made me laugh... I thought "What would an unsuccesful postponement be? They tried to postpone it, but somehow the event still went off? How do you fail a postponement?"
Yes, it is a total mess with different rules. Swedish women’s team in quarantine due to Finish rules, but they were moved to Sweden, tested again and now Swedish rules. So negative test=ok to race. Austrian team apparently don’t apply Austrian rules to their own team. Interesting.
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That is definitely a funny way to put it. I suspect failure would mean that the postponement was not enough to prevent it from being canceled altogether or being rescheduled to another location.
