New Subaru EV!

[Wendy]

Finally!

2023 Subaru Solterra

 

[cantunamunch]

Finally!

2023 Subaru Solterra

Interesting balance point between aero and plastirugged. Wonder how aero the floorpan will be.

 

[newboots]

~220 m. range. Nice.

I don't buy in the first model year of any vehicle; give them time to work out the bugs.

 

[cantunamunch]

I don't buy in the first model year of any vehicle; give them time to work out the bugs.

I think the combination of EV, Toyota collab, and warranty coverage probably flattens first-year-model woes a fair bit. It's availability I'd be wondering about.

 

[newboots]

I think the combination of EV, Toyota collab, and warranty coverage probably flattens first-year-model woes a fair bit. It's availability I'd be wondering about.

Hmm. But Toyota has specialized in hybrid tech, not so much purely EV. But maybe my discomfort stems from a decades-ago purchase of a VW Rabbit. In addition to needing other repairs, the window handles kept falling off in our hands.

 

[tromano]

Curious to see how xmode works on dual electric motor drive train with no cvt.

 

[Wendy]

Curious to see how xmode works on dual electric motor drive train with no cvt.

I wondered that too.

I’m heartened by the collaboration with Toyota.Toyota indeed been working on EV’s. The company is moving in that direction.

Hmm. But Toyota has specialized in hybrid tech, not so much purely EV. But maybe my discomfort stems from a decades-ago purchase of a VW Rabbit. In addition to needing other repairs, the window handles kept falling off in our hands.

But Toyotas aren’t Rabbits. Then again, our family’s Rabbit was great and lasted a long time.

 

[snwbrdr]

Toyota has collaborated with Tesla in the past.

 

[cantunamunch]

Hmm. But Toyota has specialized in hybrid tech, not so much purely EV.

Eh, if we look at that in closer detail - they've done plug-in hybrids for many years. So their engineers are not unfamiliar with systems like all-electric cabin comfort management, battery controls, suspension -and cooling- design of the battery skate, brake by wire, steering-by-wire, all-electronic stability controls.

Honestly, I reckon the big frontiers will be total energy management, aero, and usability. I reckon the Subaru shows a peak focus on that last item. The big aero changes will be from a lack of ICE - which is why I was quite interested in their smooth? floorpans.

(And yes, I did notice the extended departure edges at the top of the rear glass. I dare say that will be a trend in tuner cars, just like every boxy car had to have Lancer-style vortex generators)

 

[David Chaus]

I've been looking at the Solterra news for a while now. As it turns out, the lease on my Forester is up at the end of January, and if a Solterra was available I might look at it. I think I will buy my Forester at the predetermined price when I started the lease, which will be about $18,000 (which seems really smart given the prices used vehicles are going for), and then looking at selling or trading in on a Solterra when I'm comfortable with the reliability.

 

[pete]

Eh, if we look at that in closer detail - they've done plug-in hybrids for many years. So their engineers are not unfamiliar with systems like all-electric cabin comfort management, battery controls, suspension -and cooling- design of the battery skate, brake by wire, steering-by-wire, all-electronic stability controls.

Honestly, I reckon the big frontiers will be total energy management, aero, and usability. I reckon the Subaru shows a peak focus on that last item. The big aero changes will be from a lack of ICE - which is why I was quite interested in their smooth? floorpans.

(And yes, I did notice the extended departure edges at the top of the rear glass. I dare say that will be a trend in tuner cars, just like every boxy car had to have Lancer-style vortex generators)

I like and trust Toyota but they're not immune from issues such as acceleration issue, but I will toss out that they learn well and avoid past issues from re-occurring better than many companies.

Does the new Subaru come with any early fed discounts or are those all by the wayside? That may sway one to consider first year risk .... of course a new platform is a big leap over a modified existing platform.

Interesting too, with parts constraints they must have been gathering up all they need unless there's a long lead time to buy one. This one's caulk full of electronics.

 

[snwbrdr]

People don't remember this Toyota EV?

 

[Philpug]

I don't buy in the first model year of any vehicle; give them time to work out the bugs.

Welcome to 1973.

 

[scott43]

Welcome to 1973.

Anyone who buys the "all new" nonsense needs to check out how cars are made these days...

 

[Tom K.]

Introducing the Solterra:

Finally, the Subaru that absolutely will not blow a head gasket!

I'll show myself out....

 

[ADKmel]

I like and trust Toyota but they're not immune from issues such as acceleration issue, but I will toss out that they learn well and avoid past issues from re-occurring better than many companies.

Does the new Subaru come with any early fed discounts or are those all by the wayside? That may sway one to consider first year risk .... of course a new platform is a big leap over a modified existing platform.

Interesting too, with parts constraints they must have been gathering up all they need unless there's a long lead time to buy one. This one's caulk full of electronics.

from the article posted in #1
A federal tax credit incentive of up to $7,500 is available. Additional incentives, tax credits, and discounts may be available based on your location and employer. Make sure to look into your local state information about electric vehicles.