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Obsolete Ski Models Better Than New?

surfsnowgirl

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I can't get my wife off her 2015 Kenjas - must be a good ski for her.

Glad I'm not the only one. It's absolutely a F'ing amazing ski................... the day my shop guy told me the trails are "just" starting to delaminate was the worst day of my life. They are still skiing fine and I will ski them until they fall apart.
 

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I will add, you might want to keep some of these rose colored memories in your head, many times I have gone back and skied older skis that I loved and thought "It can't get any better than this..." only to think, after skiing them again, "How did I ever ski let alone like these planks..."
This an excellent point and something I have wondered about when searching for “that ski” on EBay. I mentioned the Gotama earlier but could be much of the appeal was from living in Utah and having so many stellar days on that ski many years ago. I suppose I could throw the Pocket Rocket in the same category. May be better to keep those skis in the past……
 

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Glad I'm not the only one. It's absolutely a F'ing amazing ski................... the day my shop guy told me the trails are "just" starting to delaminate was the worst day of my life. They are still skiing fine and I will ski them until they fall apart.
I hope your shop guy took the time to seal the tails, because you know what will happen if water gets in and freezes. They will come apart quicker.
 

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Glad I'm not the only one. It's absolutely a F'ing amazing ski................... the day my shop guy told me the trails are "just" starting to delaminate was the worst day of my life. They are still skiing fine and I will ski them until they fall apart.

I hope your shop guy took the time to seal the tails, because you know what will happen if water gets in and freezes. They will come apart quicker.
A couple of rivets and some slow cure epoxy and you will be fine! ogsmile
 

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Big Kahuna. I never had a bad day on them except when I crushed the sidewall.
 

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I suppose I could throw the Pocket Rocket in the same category. May be better to keep those skis in the past……
Blue Noodles! Such a great ski for powder at the time, a real leap forward. A revelation for their time compared to the skinny 210's most people were still skiing. Unfortunately, they would be in the category "what the heck was I thinking" now.
 

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Fisher Motive 95, replaced by the Pro Mountain. The Motive was a perfect blend (for me) of quick and nimble, yet stable in crud and decent at carving. One of the most fun skis I’d ever been on.

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I still own and regularly ski a pair. More demanding than my current, easy-peasy Enforcers, but also more rewarding. No free lunch.
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Could everybody just quit mentioning this ski. It makes me sad to be reminded that it is gone. :(

The V1.1 with a bit of early rise (lightning bolts) was the ne plus ultra for me -- even better than the Motive 95!
 

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I had a pair of Volants that was the best crud ski I have ever owned.
 

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I still own and regularly ski a pair. More demanding than my current, easy-peasy Enforcers, but also more rewarding. No free lunch.


Could everybody just quit mentioning this ski. It makes me sad to be reminded that it is gone. :(

The V1.1 with a bit of early rise (lightning bolts) was the ne plus ultra for me -- even better than the Motive 95!
Blossom Pure 99 is a modern incarnation and even quieter.
 

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K2 Pinnacle 88. easy going, balanced, highly versatile and very capable I put a number of intermediates to advanced skiers on them and they all loved this ski. @Doug Briggs loved this ski too and I wouldn't exactly call him "advanced". :).

Question: skis better for who?
 
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I have a pair of 7 or 8 y.o. (or older ?) Kastle MX83, 183cms that are my western mountain "It hasn't snowed in over a week" skis. While pre rocker and a bit heavy, I doubt I will find a modern ski that is as stable or predictable at speed on the hard pack.
 

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I have a pair of 7 or 8 y.o. (or older ?) Kästle MX83, 183cms that are my western mountain "It hasn't snowed in over a week" skis. While pre rocker and a bit heavy, I doubt I will find a modern ski that is as stable or predictable at speed on the hard pack.

thats my current frontside ski. :). the 183 is too long for me as a groomer zoomer but the MX83 is a superb ski Not exactly the most fun bump ski though
 
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thats my current frontside ski. :). the 183 is too long for me as a groomer zoomed but the MX83 is a superb ski Not exactly the most fun bump ski though.
And as you might recall when we skied together on my visit to Steamboat a few seasons ago, I am not exactly a bump skier, so the MX83 really works for me. :thumb:
 
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I've bought "replacements" for my Rictors, but somehow I'm still using them. 255 days and counting.
If I remember right the replacement you bought for your Rictos was the first or second generation iKonic? I'm not surprised you have so many days on your Rictors. I got a "great" deal on a first generation ikonic 85ti without demoing it. I don't really say any modern day skis sucks, but damn I make an exception for the ikonics and do those things plain suck. I remember telling you in that post it gave me no joy at all to say that about those skis you had bought.

I've got five days on the ikonics and I'm not even sure I'll even use them again as rock skis. I have never heard anybody say anything good about them.

So to add to the thread, to me the ikonics that came out after the Rictor were worse in every way.
 
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These are the 2019 iKonic 84 Ti's. I dont know what "generation" that is. I think it's more 3rd or 4th. The issue I have with them is they are way more demanding and reward aggression. And I don't always feel very aggressive. So I don't use them until mid-season. They are great for ice but they make me work. The old Rictors I never even think about. (Maybe because I have 255 days on them!) Also because they are stiffer than the Rictors I feel like the Rictors are easier in somewhat deeper snow.

I've only got 21 days on the Ikonics after 3 seasons.
 

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The original Blizzard Black Pearl (2011-2014??) Pre-carbon.
 

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