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cantunamunch

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@cantunamunch I know you are a particular fan of the Rollerblade brand but are there good skates from other brands out there I should look at, too?
ETA: I just noticed the F.I.T. is a K2. Any other good brands?

Fan? Heh. They're the gorilla in the room. You can't ignore them.

Powerslide, K2, Seba/FR are the other players with wide lines. Everything else is either pricepoint, specialist freestyle/urban, specialist hockey, racer/speed or junior. But the only reason to worry about brand now is availability of parts. Read: brake pads, brake screws and axles.

You don't want to spend more than 2-3-5 days without skating this summer, let alone weeks while you wait for mail order parts. Especially since you won't be skating in the rain & wet just yet and those days will be knocked off the calendar automatically.
 
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@cantunamunch I know you are a particular fan of the Rollerblade brand but are there good skates from other brands out there I should look at, too?
ETA: I just noticed the F.I.T. is a K2. Any other good brands?
My advice would be for you to order a few of the following, pay attention to IW's return policy, and try to figure out what fits best. I'd suggest a 4x90mm setup however on the better skates frames and wheel sizes can be changed so even a 4x80mm setup can be changed up. Don't get cheep skates, they'll fit like rental ski boots, probably worse.




 
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New PS Arise series could have an option to meet the needs of people reading this thread -
powerslide-arise-sl.jpg



 

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Are you going to try them :D
No. I have no need for the 4 x 84mm switchable to 3 x 100mm frame setup. I'm also not interested in going back to 4 x 110mm, and their proprietary frame limits frame choices to their few offerings.
Plus no USA dealer makes returns something I don't even want to think about if the boot doesn't work for me. However, Canada has a rep in Toronto and the skate could be a good one for Pug's in the great white north so I posted the video and link.

I do plan to order the Powerslide Arise Marathon from IW and giving it a try but not in a rush and can wait for IW to run a 15% or 20% off sale on skates as my newer version Bont Semi-race with 2 point frame mount and 12.2" Powerslide 3 X 125mm wheel setup is working OK for now ... other then the occasional blister. I can't win with these things:\
 

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I have in-lune skates, but never use them. There are so many more important things that I can do to get "in shape" for skiing.
 

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I inline skate with ski poles as training for skate skiing (cross country) . Four wheels with some extra slow (designed for roller skis) to keep the speed similar to snow. Fast wheels mess up the timing for poling while "skiing."

I really dislike roller skis. Inlines are not quite as good for training balance as roller skis but so much more fun for me, so I get out more.
 

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I inline skate with ski poles as training for skate skiing (cross country) . Four wheels with some extra slow (designed for roller skis) to keep the speed similar to snow. Fast wheels mess up the timing for poling while "skiing."

I really dislike roller skis. Inlines are not quite as good for training balance as roller skis but so much more fun for me, so I get out more.
How do you slow the wheels down - is the wheel itself designed for that? I also find that normal skates are too fast for that kind of training.

For a while I was dragging an old car tire around, but then you can only do that - whereas I enjoy mixing up the XC training with some turns down hills, crossover turns uphill, etc.

Anyway skating is a lot of fun and a great way to do some ski-specific and general conditioning.
 

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How do you slow the wheels down - is the wheel itself designed for that? I also find that normal skates are too fast for that kind of training.
It's the wheel itself. For a number of years I used Carbonics wheels sold by Jenex which are slow, but they are a bit small (68mm) do don't deal so well with road debris.

More recently I got skates that can take 100mm wheels, which means roller ski wheels work. These are sold in various speeds - I've got a mix of slow wheels plus original wheels from the skates on each skate now.

Here's one source Roller Ski Shop.
 

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Thanks. What makes the wheel slow, the bearing somehow? I have a standard 4x80mm, wondering if I can tweak something
 

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Thanks. What makes the wheel slow, the bearing somehow? I have a standard 4x80mm, wondering if I can tweak something
It's rubber and design of wheel itself. Back in my racing days, we had pair of wheels for roller skis for those few races we had on roller skis, and different wheels for training. They were otherwise same wheels just different rubber and speed difference was huge. Ok also bearing for races were prepared differently. For training you had grease in them, for races they were clean with just very thin oil, which means they needed to be opened, cleaned and oiled after almost every use, and certainly after every even slightly wet session.
But nowadays it's also wheel design, with fast race wheels for inline skates, you have some plastic cone inside of wheel, so there's less rubber between wheel center and road, making it even harder then rubber compound already is. Difference between general inline speed skating wheels and those slightly more expensive faster ones, is really huge.
 

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You used to be able to get rollerblade wheels in many sizes and durometers (hardness). Prob still can, it’s just been many years since I looked. Bearings also came in different ABEC ratings for friction.

If you wanted skates for doing tricks you wanted pretty hard plastic and small diameter wheels. You could slide sideways especially on concrete, and the small wheels were better for jumping etc. Fairly horrible though for distance on the street, but kids would use them all over. They also made a different sound. I can still hear them. It was part of the cool factor as reg softer rubber wheels were near silent with good tight bearings.
For the half pipe sections those smaller, harder wheels were better.

I once did a half pipe. Regular skates. This was before I’d ever done one on snow. It’s a real lesson in forcing yourself to move downhill in front of your feet. It’s really keeping above your feet, which are about to be vertical on the wall. That means you have to be at a near right angle to the wall. Not natural or comfortable at all.
So first time I drop in I go right on my butt before I know what’s happening. It took a couple of tries to be able to go down the wall and up the other side. The large wheels (normal wheels) make it a bit harder because you’re further from the surface. But they were faster and more directional.

It’s strange it all sort of disappeared. People were doing some cool stuff.
 

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You used to be able to get rollerblade wheels in many sizes and durometers (hardness). Prob still can, it’s just been many years since I looked. Bearings also came in different ABEC ratings for friction.
You still can. But for really *slow* the rollerskiing wheels are better: slower than any skate-specific wheel I could find other than Jenex/V2 carbonics in sizes I liked (larger being better to deal with little stones, etc on the road).
 

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