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Shorter Radius Carving Ski

slowrider

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I see a new Nordica Dobermann SL WC 165/13 for sale here locally for a pretty reasonable price. It's that a decent option?


If I haven't said it yo yet, thank you. I really appreciate all the input everyone is giving.
The Dobermans will work fine for carving. Check the DIN on fis sl. I've bought a few that the DIN started at 10.
 

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Man they're hard to find without spending $1300+ but I was planning on spending 1k anyways . I am finding some 156/13 for cheaper but they're jr skis. I'll keep looking.
Don’t by them new & don’t buy jr. skis. Look to a Master’s race program or young adult racers. They are upgrading all the time & usually selling used skis that have probably been hot boxed or waxed repeatedly & likely have a tune that’s better than most shops can do for $100. Get a good look at the edges & be sure they still have some sharpening life left.
Someone like @ScotsSkier often has some great deals going!
 

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For me, the 165s are more versatile for free skiing. I find the 155-157s I’ve tried to be too turny. Easy but high maintenance, almost manic.

Don’t fear, if you can stay out of the backseat you’ll love them.
 
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Alright I'll hang out on that side of the hill more. G Thanks for the suggestion.
Don’t by them new & don’t buy jr. skis. Look to a Master’s race program or young adult racers. They are upgrading all the time & usually selling used skis that have probably been hot boxed or waxed repeatedly & likely have a tune that’s better than most shops can do for $100. Get a good look at the edges & be sure they still have some sharpening life left.
Someone like @ScotsSkier often has some great deals going!
 

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Head SuperShapes are always reliable carvers. Pick a model that suits your fancy
I'm on a 12m Head iWorldCup SuperShape for icy days on the little hill. Also good for crowded days on the bigger place for weaving your way through the crowd.
 

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Don’t by them new & don’t buy jr. skis. Look to a Master’s race program or young adult racers. They are upgrading all the time & usually selling used skis that have probably been hot boxed or waxed repeatedly & likely have a tune that’s better than most shops can do for $100. Get a good look at the edges & be sure they still have some sharpening life left.
Someone like @ScotsSkier often has some great deals going!
I second this. Talk to some racers and/or coaches. Racers have to have near perfect, current skis: for them, last year's model or some slight blemish that might effect speed won't do. But for you, as @4ster says, most of these skis will be prepped better than brand new ones. And they come up on eBay all the time, especially pre- and early season, and late.
 

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up to about 80 or 90 kph, you can swap rapidly back and forth, after that you just have to keep them flat and just accept the fact that the skis are all wobbly - you'll still go straight, but it's a little unnerving until you get used to it. I've had my 13 m skis over 100 kph many times and they never scared me. Also turning at above 70 to 80 kph, the skis will do it, but it doesn't feel like a smooth locked in turn; it's more like tearing at the snow as the edge won't lock in. Now a days I try to keep my 13-m skis under about 75 kph, just because that's their sweet spot and I have other skis I can use if I want to go fast.

Oh sure thing.

So when you're not banging off 12m radius turns at 75kph tell me what skis you use to actually go fast. And, naturally, what speeds you're hitting on the go fast skis.
 

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your a lighter skier, you will LOVE FIS SL, maybe go 155 not 157 or 165

deacon 72 master, WRT pro or similar is also a hoooooot, and more chill
 

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Skiing FIS SL ski is exactly like driving a go-kart. Acceleration, grip, screams, adrenaline, fun and then you look at the stats and realize you have been moving at only 50 km/h. :ogbiggrin: Lovely.
 

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your a lighter skier, you will LOVE FIS SL, maybe go 155 not 157 or 165

deacon 72 master, WRT pro or similar is also a hoooooot, and more chill
157 or 155 and 12 m will be the best choice if and only if you home hill is less than 250 ft vertical. 13-m radius and ~165 if your home hill is more than 250 ft vertical. 12 m will be too limiting on larger hills IMHO. The shorter ski will be more fun on the smaller hill, kind of like a shorter wheel base on a car, but if you can manage higher speeds and/or more force in the turns you will wish you had the longer one; that shorter wheelbase car also has less grippy tires.
 

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Oh sure thing.

So when you're not banging off 12m radius turns at 75kph tell me what skis you use to actually go fast. And, naturally, what speeds you're hitting on the go fast skis.
What @cantunamunch said. My new blue Mach 1 120 MV (with custom foam liner) are also up to the task, even though everybody knows the red ones are faster.
I don't seem to feel the need to get speed thrills by skiing these days ( I did put 11,000 kms on the Gixxer 750 this summer though).
 
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Skiing FIS SL ski is exactly like driving a go-kart. Acceleration, grip, screams, adrenaline, fun and then you look at the stats and realize you have been moving at only 50 km/h. :ogbiggrin: Lovely.
This is exactly what I want. I want hip to snow turns without going Mach stupid. I have a wife and kid that are new to skiing so I would like to have fun on the blues with them.
 

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Oh sure thing.

So when you're not banging off 12m radius turns at 75kph tell me what skis you use to actually go fast. And, naturally, what speeds you're hitting on the go fast skis.

A billionty billion... ludicrous speed, foam boots, and mad mad, mad mad skills.

:daffy:
 
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Um, yes.

First, because people represent Shaggys as being ice skis. Second, because this song was all over the charts...and made it to 20 dozen commercials in the 90s and early 2000s.

Hahaha good! I wasn't aware and I didn't give them much thought at all anyways. I do love the song though obviously.
 

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