Steelers!

[Erik Timmerman]

To be honest, when I heard them saying Pickett was slow getting up I was hoping Mason would be getting off the bench. I don't even know if he was in uniform or not.

 

[dbostedo]

To be honest, when I heard them saying Pickett was slow getting up I was hoping Mason would be getting off the bench. I don't even know if he was in uniform or not.

If Pickett and Trubisky are deck chairs, Rudolph is also a deck chair, but one with some webbing missing, and one arm adjustment than doesn't work, and occasionally a leg collapses.

 

[Laurel Hill Crazie]

Kenny is looking like a total bust right now. He is moving backward, not developing. His inaccurate throws are a puzzle because I have watched him "make the throws" before. Canada's playcalling is atrocious. It looks like he is living in his fears, with no throws across the middle or safe passes to the flats or outside. Myles Garrett was in Kenny's face all day. Where were the quick slants and other quick routes beyond the line of scrimmage to minimize the rush? This should be Cannada's last year. Tomlin's job should be on the line, too. He should have benched Kenny for either Mitch or Mason to provide a spark. To be fair to Kenny on that last drive, Diontae should have caught that pass, and both were not on the same page on the second pass. This is where Kenny usually shines, but not that day. The D held them to 13 points, which should be more than good enough, but then allowed the Browns to march right down the field for the winning field goal. It is no mystery how to beat the Steelers D. Establish the run and quick passes to negate the pass rush.

 

[wiread]

Kenny is looking like a total bust right now. He is moving backward, not developing. His inaccurate throws are a puzzle because I have watched him "make the throws" before. Canada's playcalling is atrocious. It looks like he is living in his fears, with no throws across the middle or safe passes to the flats or outside. Myles Garrett was in Kenny's face all day. Where were the quick slants and other quick routes beyond the line of scrimmage to minimize the rush? This should be Cannada's last year. Tomlin's job should be on the line, too. He should have benched Kenny for either Mitch or Mason to provide a spark. To be fair to Kenny on that last drive, Diontae should have caught that pass, and both were not on the same page on the second pass. This is where Kenny usually shines, but not that day. The D held them to 13 points, which should be more than good enough, but then allowed the Browns to march right down the field for the winning field goal. It is no mystery how to beat the Steelers D. Establish the run and quick passes to negate the pass rush.

I don't know much about the Steelers. Only saw the game GB played against them. So take this with a grain of salt. But young QB's struggle more often than not. and just like toddlers learning anything, or doing advanced dog training or you learning a new skill, guitar, skiing, dance etc. We learn, learn, learn, take steps, take more steps and appear to become somewhat recognizable as possibly being almost competent and then we try more advanced skills and everything falls apart for a while and then it just all clicks again and we take another step or leap forward.

Now everyone steps and leaps at a different pace and figuring out what is appearing limited by the process of learning or limited by the capacity to perform is the hard part LOL

But in general, and especially in the NFL, if a guy can make the plays, but is not at the moment, he could just be in that phase of learning and patience is going to come in handy.

Toss in some underperformers around him and a pass rush in your face that makes the HOF QB's look less than themselves, well it looks ugly at times.

Now maybe Pickettt sucks, I have no idea I haven't seen enough, but we're going thru that right now and I find myself just needing to step back and give him time to grow and learn. None of us know it all when we start.

 

[Erik Timmerman]

Looks like Canada won’t be a problem anymore.

 

[dbostedo]

Looks like Canada won’t be a problem anymore.

Whoa. I'm surprised, though I guess I shouldn't be.

When's the last time the Steelers fired a coordinator mid-season?

 

[Coach13]

Looks like Canada won’t be a problem anymore.

Finally. I’m happy he’s out but I’m mystified it took this long.

 

[KevinF]

With Canada gone, all all we need is for the Rooney's to rid us of the Tomlin experiment... Halfway there!

 

[Laurel Hill Crazie]

What, what? Yinz is telling me this just now! This has never happened in my lifetime. I just checked. It's been 80 years since a coach was fired mid-season.

 

[Laurel Hill Crazie]

We will find out how Kenny does with a new playcaller. It looks like it will be QB coach Mike Sullivan. It's too bad the plays will be from the same playbook.

 

[dbostedo]

It's too bad the plays will be from the same playbook.

I'd guess that, given NFL offensive complexity, with different focus and play-calling the "same" offense could look pretty different. Just a guess though.

 

[Coach13]

I'd guess that, given NFL offensive complexity, with different focus and play-calling the "same" offense could look pretty different. Just a guess though.

I agree with your statement but that was the Steelers problem. Their offense has been anything but complex, in fact it’s been downright predictable.

I would like to think they have the playbook to vastly change that, do some things differently and disguise what’s coming a lot better. If not, results won’t change much.

 

[KevinF]

It's unlikely that the Steelers will drastically change anything in the final weeks of the season, at least in terms of play calling. The Post-Gazette is reporting that it was Rooney who fired Canada, not Tomlin.

I'm wondering if he did it to light a fire and notify various people (Pickett, Tomlin, etc.) that their leash is short.

 

[wiread]

I've always had a lot of respect for Tomlin as a HC. I wouldn't be in too big of a hurry to get rid of a good coach.


But our DC made Canada look like a juggernaut 2 weeks ago LOL. You can blame Joe Barry for giving Canada an extra week

 

[Laurel Hill Crazie]

Tomlin has not been given his usual contract extension. He is signed through next season. I think he got the message.

 

[Coach13]

I have been critical of Tomlin in the past, especially when he had big Ben and the best wide receiver, and running back in the game for several years. I thought he could’ve done more with those teams, but actually, for the last few years, I’ve thought he’s done a decent job with a team with not a lot of talent.

When you’ve had the success he has, it’s not always easy to change. In all honesty, I think it may would do him and the Steelers a favor to go in different directions at this point. Sometimes there just needs to be change, much like the Andy Reid situation from Philly to KC.

 

[KevinF]

I've always had a lot of respect for Tomlin as a HC. I wouldn't be in too big of a hurry to get rid of a good coach.

Too big a hurry to get rid of him? Do you want to wait another decade of no playoff wins? I mean, what exactly are we waiting for at this point? He makes terrible hires (he has no coaching tree), he either can't develop talent or can't recognize it...

I have been critical of Tomlin in the past, especially when he had big Ben and the best wide receiver, and running back in the game for several years. I thought he could’ve done more with those teams, but actually, for the last few years, I’ve thought he’s done a decent job with a team with not a lot of talent.

When you’ve had the success he has, it’s not always easy to change. In all honesty, I think it may would do him and the Steelers a favor to go in different directions at this point. Sometimes there just needs to be change, much like the Andy Reid situation from Philly to KC.

What, exactly, success has Tomlin had? He won one Super Bowl, 14+ years ago. He's managed to keep up a streak of non-losing seasons; he's also managing a streak of playoff misses that now extends half of that Super Bowl drought. In fact, 22 of the 32 teams in the NFL have won a playoff game more recently than Tomlin has. In most organizations, if your performance review indicates that 2/3rds of your competition does better than you... well, I'd be packing my bags.

Who would you replace him with? The Eagles somehow found two different coaches who managed Super Bowl appearances in that time. There's somebody out there who can do a better job -- a much better job. Find him. Firing Tomlin might get you mediocrity -- but that's what you're going to get anyway with Tomlin at the helm.

If the players change but the results stay the same -- this doesn't take a genius to determine where the problem lies.

 

[wiread]

do anything long enough and you're going to have some rough patches. Most coaches don't win a single super bowl, so you can do worse too, a lot worse. and though i'm not a Steelers fan, he seems to be a good leader of men and has coached that team thru adversity and always seemed to handle it well. at least as an outsider looking in. I respect the guy

 

[Laurel Hill Crazie]

You've got to understand. Steelers fans expect to win a Lombardi every year, and if you're a true Pittsburgh sports fan, you expect a Cup every year. Depending on how they played, a deep run into the playoffs might be acceptable. One and done or "almost made the cut" is way below the line. As for baseball, well...the Bucs won 3 World Series in my lifetime, but it's been so long that most gave up hope and joined the mortal fan base that lives in the real world.

 

[scott43]

You've got to understand. Steelers fans expect to win a Lombardi every year, and if you're a true Pittsburgh sports fan, you expect a Cup every year. Depending on how they played, a deep run into the playoffs might be acceptable. One and done or "almost made the cut" is way below the line. As for baseball, well...the Bucs won 3 World Series in my lifetime, but it's been so long that most gave up hope and joined the mortal fan base that lives in the real world.

You guys need to ride the Toronto Maple Leafs puke machine for a while. Toughen you up..