Gear Tele skis for learning

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Got my skis back, mounted. Clicked in today. Pretty easy to get in and out, not much different that an alpine binding, except I need to pay attention to line up the tech toe with the pins, and make sure the claw is secure underfoot. They feel good getting into a tele lunge. Putting the ski on edge (on the carpet, LOL) is easy. Boots feel super comfy yet snug.

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Inserts on my DPS’s so I can switch the bindings over when I‘m ready.
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Someone told me once that you don't have to lunge when tele skiing. One of my trainers at Butternnut was on tele skis but I never even noticed because he never lunged. I'm looking forward to learning how to tele this winter also. We've a couple awesome skiers at Bromley who teach tele so planning on takinig a lesson with Paula at some point.
 
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Someone told me once that you don't have to lunge when tele skiing. One of my trainers at Butternnut was on tele skis but I never even noticed because he never lunged. I'm looking forward to learning how to tele this winter also. We've a couple awesome skiers at Bromley who teach tele so planning on takinig a lesson with Paula at some point.
I think what @markojp is referring to is the constant fluid motion in tele…one doesn’t stay in a “lunge” position; just as in alpine, one is continually moving one’s feet through the turn. I had to Google “leaf spring,” LOL but it is a great analogy!

Right now, I am working on noticing how it feels to have my weight equally distributed to both my leading and “rudder” foot so that I don’t do a fake-a-mark turn on tele skis. On the carpet, or using my furniture movers, it’s not possible to do this in a smooth continuous motion due to friction. I try, though. But I do sometimes remain in a “lunge” for a bit to think about weight distribution.

Allen & Mike’s Really Cool Telemark Tips book is fun and informative.
 
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Someone told me once that you don't have to lunge when tele skiing. One of my trainers at Butternnut was on tele skis but I never even noticed because he never lunged. I'm looking forward to learning how to tele this winter also. We've a couple awesome skiers at Bromley who teach tele so planning on takinig a lesson with Paula at some point.
If what you mean by not having to “lunge” (I think dropping your knee is a better term) it’s true…you can do regular alpine turns on tele gear by keeping your heel down and turning as you normally would with your alpine gear.
 

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More later when I have time, but in a nutshell, you've got x amount of vertical travel between your center of mass and base of support. Use it wisely. Knee to the ski? You're maxed out and lose mobility in all planes of movement. Think of separating the skis fore / aft, trying to keep the ball of your foot on the rear ski ON the ski. This will keep your stance tight and allow you to use your skeleton rather than relying on brute strength.... Telley till you're smelly? I beg to differ...Teley, no need to be smelly.
 

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The beauty of Tele is that styles wildly vary. Free your heel, free your mind. You can do kinda whatever you like that works and nobody is going to critique you. drop the knee, don't drop the knee... depends on who you ask. Beards, duct tape and body odor are the rule of the day!!! I'm joking but most are just happy you are out there on Tele gear. Read the Allen and Mike's book and you're there! If you didn't already have gear I'd suggest you get an old set of Hammerhead bindings from 22 Designs. You can adjust the up and down heel movement and set it to very little to start out and it's almost like alpine skiing. That is their "hardpack or ice" setting as it keeps your heel closer to the ski. I mostly use the middle setting and rarely go all the way down other than for occasional "Style Points". (Actually up here in farm country we kinda chuckle when we see people go all the way down on one knee in anything less than boot deep pow.... if it gets deep... that's when you need to really engage that movement) Mostly we use the "John Wayne" or "Bow-legged" gait and mix in a James Brown "Hop" between turns! Gradually increase the heel play setting as you get accustomed to the movements. One tele turn, 3 alpine turns...... work your way to a 1:1 ratio then work towards 1 alpine to 3 tele turns. That combo of the Hammerhead bindings and mixing in Alpine serves to turbocharge your learning curve.
 
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The beauty of Tele is that styles wildly vary. Free your heel, free your mind. You can do kinda whatever you like that works and nobody is going to critique you. drop the knee, don't drop the knee... depends on who you ask. Beards, duct tape and body odor are the rule of the day!!! I'm joking but most are just happy you are out there on Tele gear. Read the Allen and Mike's book and you're there! If you didn't already have gear I'd suggest you get an old set of Hammerhead bindings from 22 Designs. You can adjust the up and down heel movement and set it to very little to start out and it's almost like alpine skiing. That is their "hardpack or ice" setting as it keeps your heel closer to the ski. I mostly use the middle setting and rarely go all the way down other than for occasional "Style Points". (Actually up here in farm country we kinda chuckle when we see people go all the way down on one knee in anything less than boot deep pow.... if it gets deep... that's when you need to really engage that movement) Mostly we use the "John Wayne" or "Bow-legged" gait and mix in a James Brown "Hop" between turns! Gradually increase the heel play setting as you get accustomed to the movements. One tele turn, 3 alpine turns...... work your way to a 1:1 ratio then work towards 1 alpine to 3 tele turns. That combo of the Hammerhead bindings and mixing in Alpine serves to turbocharge your learning curve.
Hey, Yo Momma!
Thanks for the recs!
I learned on Hammerheads awhile back. Unfortunately didn’t stick with it though I did love it. (I had the wrong skis for learning).
I now have Meidjo NTN-tech bindings and Scarpa TXPros. (See my pic above). A big investment, I know! :geek:

I love your suggestion of doing 1 tele turn for every 3 alpine turns and then reversing that ratio.

I’m really looking forward to this season, in a way I haven’t before. ogsmile
 
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