Test skis arriving...

[Philpug]

I am looking forward to trying these Renown Z90 skis. I will say they take pride in the way they ship them. Pretty cool box.

 

[Pat AKA mustski]

Yeah ... I really like that box!

 

[cantunamunch]

Cedar?

 

[Living Proof]

Not familiar with that name, is it a ski or a new model?
Don't trash that box.

 

[Philpug]

Not familiar with that name, is it a ski or a new model?
Don't trash that box.

It is a ski brand and specifically a model. Link is in the initial post. Small company building skis in Vermont.

 

[Tom K.]

I don't know about the skis themselves, but that box looks like it would be good for at least 10 uses. Nice!

As a (mostly) lapsed polymer engineer, I'm very intrigued about the use of their "HDT" material in skis.

And I love me some sidecut, so even more intrigued.

But at $1,300 MSRP, my Rock Magnet tendencies will probably by a limiting factor.

 

[Bill Talbot]

I'm a bit puzzled by a VT ski maker building a 90mm underfoot CARVER with a 16.5' turn radius.
Doesn't mention how it performs on grass, dirt or ice though....

 

[Josh Matta]

My super bros hold an edge better than anything else in my quiver 91mm waist and 30 meter sidecut they are not my everyday ski but it hold on hard snow far better than my GS skis.

There have been many days this year where my 81 mm waisted full camber X powers late in the day were a chore and my 88mm Brahmas with tip and tail rocker were easier to hook up in the weird sugary snow.

 

[cantunamunch]

I don't know about the skis themselves, but that box looks like it would be good for at least 10 uses. Nice!

As a (mostly) lapsed polymer engineer, I'm very intrigued about the use of their "HDT" material in skis.

And I love me some sidecut, so even more intrigued.

But at $1,300 MSRP, my Rock Magnet tendencies will probably by a limiting factor.

Yeh, especially if they managed some sort of super low temperature compensation.

 

[Lorenzzo]

Is it the photo or does that box have zero camber?

 

[crgildart]

Look has an older Kastle vibe to it..

 

[Philpug]

Is it the photo or does that box have zero camber?

The skis have camber, the box does not.

 

[Bill Talbot]

Makes good sense to send out demos in a reusable wood box. Easy to pack back up for the next tester and keeps them from getting damaged.
Nicely played

 

[KevinF]

My super bros hold an edge better than anything else in my quiver 91mm waist and 30 meter sidecut they are not my everyday ski but it hold on hard snow far better than my GS skis.

There have been many days this year where my 81 mm waisted full camber X powers late in the day were a chore and my 88mm Brahmas with tip and tail rocker were easier to hook up in the weird sugary snow.

I agree whole-heartedly that skinny carvers are a lot of work on afternoon "groomers" with random sugar piles everywhere.

91mm waist holds better than GS race skis though? That would seem to defy some physics. Are the GS skis just too much of a one-trick pony that doing anything other than a GS turn feels awful on them and your super-bros have some forgiveness built in so they feel better?

 

[Josh Matta]

I agree whole-heartedly that skinny carvers are a lot of work on afternoon "groomers" with random sugar piles everywhere.

91mm waist holds better than GS race skis though? That would seem to defy some physics. Are the GS skis just too much of a one-trick pony that doing anything other than a GS turn feels awful on them and your super-bros have some forgiveness built in so they feel better?

super Bros are damper, have tighter sidecut in the tip, straighter underfoot and much softer tip and tail. the wider platform let you stivot them easier and still hook up it seems. Basically are real hard core ice the Gs skis take the edge but on anything real world give me the Cadillac Super Bros.

They really are one of the most idiot proof skis I have ever owned. Once we have some wide open groomers you are welcome to try them, but the reality is their purpose is to go mach schnell. You can only get tight carved turns out of them going fairly fast.

 

[quant]

I love the idea of the company using a new material in the skis since sometimes something new works. Let us know if the D3O or HDT or whatever the other manufacturers call it really works.

 

[Philpug]

That Super Bro (Hart Boss) was an amazing ski, as much for the shape but more so for the construction, it came from the Pannotti/ Blossom factory. When I was working with them we discussed making that ski in a 185cm...I think it would have been a ton of fun. I asked but never got a reason why they made it only in the 195cm.

 

[Josh Matta]

Fuelie bosses exist in a 185 and 175..... they are basically impossible to find though.

 

[Philpug]

Fuelie bosses exist in a 185 and 175..... they are basically impossible to find though.

I don't think they every got made, we had them on the order forms but the cost to make them was in the $6K range per mold and there wasn't enough orders.

 

[cantunamunch]

91mm waist holds better than GS race skis though? That would seem to defy some physics.

It doesn't defy physics - it defies the assumptions people make to make physics simpler.

The moment you postulate compressible snow all those narrow-waist calculations, particularly the ones assuming that the pivot point for the lever is at the ski edge, can go fly out the window for all the use they are.

The one calculation that does work well in the compressible snow case is the computation of ground reaction force shift - wider skis still require less angulation than narrower skis and so we can easily say "less work".