The Never-Ending Stöckli Discussion

[Tony Storaro]

I know the right answer is get both but in the meantime…

WRT ST 180-best of both worlds.
Even more powerful than the consumer GS and more nimble.

On paper their turn radius is 16.3 but on snow the things are a bit different and you have absolutely no problems in driving them hard in GS turns. Out of this world stable at speed. You can go 60 without even realizing it.

 

[BmbrMcGnrly]

Thanks Tony! Do you think the 185 GS has any advantages over the 180 WRT? Will the WRT be more stable at speed despite its shorter length?

 

[Noodler]

Thanks Tony! Do you think the 185 GS has any advantages over the 180 WRT? Will the WRT be more stable at speed despite its shorter length?

Do you ski anywhere where you can actually ski them as intended? I see that you're in PA... I would lean toward the shorter ski with a tighter sidecut if I was mostly skiing less than 1000' of vertical on fairly narrow runs.

 

[Tony Storaro]

Thanks Tony! Do you think the 185 GS has any advantages over the 180 WRT? Will the WRT be more stable at speed despite its shorter length?

Cant say about the 185 GS as I have only tested the GS 180 and the WRT ST 180 is twice the ski the GS are.
These are basically FIS GS ski without all the hard work-to quote @LindseyB .
My all time favourite piste ski, nothing I have tested comes close-the ski on my shoulder on my avatar pic. My preciousss...

 

[Wendy]

Whaaaa.....?


That will take some time to process...

What's wrong with these WRTs? Why so curvy? Or is it the perspective? Or are they kids ski?

@Philpug
Told you so.

 

[Wendy]

Saw up to 10 pairs of Stöcklis on locals at Elk today…..men and women. Over the years, kinda rare to see Stöckli in NEPA/Elk. I wonder if Idyllwild Ski Shop picked them up?

Don’t know about Idyllwild, but Buckman’s carries them. I’ve noticed way more Stockli’s at Blue, as well, and attribute it to the Buckman’s inventory.

 

[BmbrMcGnrly]

Do you ski anywhere where you can actually ski them as intended? I see that you're in PA... I would lean toward the shorter ski with a tighter sidecut if I was mostly skiing less than 1000' of vertical on fairly narrow runs.

I ski out west and in VT pretty often (much more often than PA), but that is something to consider.

The biggest thing holding me back from the WRT is I typically ski a 191cm ski, so 180 seems a bit short (at least on paper). It’s leaving me wondering if the 185 GS is more stable at speed, at least on those days when no one is on the mountain and I can get some speed.

appreciate the input so far!

 

[anders_nor]

Im amazed you found a WRT ST 180 demo, seems unicorn'ish as most demos are 172 :|

WRT ST isnt made to be "great at speed" but for short turns, high edge angles

Skis like WRT ST and competitors has serious umph, edge designs, lack of taper, rocker (orlack of) camber etc, makes them burly and hold up.


If your feeling extremly good at skiing and want longer, I'm selling a pair of LASER GS WRT 193 from RaceDepartment....

 

[Tony Storaro]

If your feeling extremly good at skiing and want longer, I'm selling a pair of LASER GS WRT 193 from RaceDepartment....

Now we are talking!

P.S. He tested 172 not 180 WRT ST

 

[Tony Storaro]

The biggest thing holding me back from the WRT is I typically ski a 191cm ski, so 180 seems a bit short (at least on paper). It’s leaving me wondering if the 185 GS is more stable at speed, at least on those days when no one is on the mountain and I can get some speed.

If ultimate speed and stability is what you are after, the ski that can beat WRTs are the 188/193 FIS GS Lasers.

Can you handle them tho is a question only you can answer.

 

[KingGrump]

 

[Tony Storaro]

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Indeed.

 

[TheArchitect]

I wish we'd get some snow here in the NE. I've yet to ski my new SR95s and I'm really excited to see what the Stockli hype is all about.

 

[bad influence]

I wish we'd get some snow here in the NE. I've yet to ski my new SR95s and I'm really excited to see what the Stöckli hype is all about.

I've skied mine a few days at Cannon. They def rip. I moved up from a 177 enforcer 93 to the 184 SR95. Need to get used to skiing the longer ski though

 

[Philpug]

For the Stockli fans, how about this structure on some DH skis.

 

[Tony Storaro]

I've skied mine a few days at Cannon. They def rip. I moved up from a 177 enforcer 93 to the 184 SR95. Need to get used to skiing the longer ski though

It won’t take long.
I moved from AX175 to SR95 184, there was certain adjustment period but it was all smooth sailing from there.
Presently these are my all mountain, don’t-know-what-the-snow-is ski. They can handle just about everything.

 

[Paul Lutes]

For the Stöckli fans, how about this structure on some DH skis.
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So ...... tire treads?!?

Needs to pop up on the Beautiful Grinds thread.

 

[anders_nor]

DH is beying crazy imho. I had a good buttworkout watching on tv today.

 

[Peter P]

Update: Just loving my 3 ski quiver in Deer Valley
80% of time = Stockli AR = best pair of skis that I have ever been on
10% = Head e-race pro = Nastar mornings
10% Salomon Blanks = powder days

On a side note, does anyone know anyone who can give some reasonable private race training lessons in Deer Valley?
I am willing to pay for some lessons, not a lesson + lift ticket. Thanks

 

[Scotty I.]

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I would like to see this plastered all over resorts throughout the country. It made me think twice
Thanks Grump