@JESinstr, when skiing, do you ever muscularly move your outside hip back? If yes, have you found it helpful, and if yes, in what way?
I do this. I've not found anyone talking about it in ski instruction. Maybe I've missed it.
But since I haven't encountered anyone writing or talking about it, I've concluded that skiers are not supposed to do it, and that I'm an outlier. I'm OK with that, because the results are good.
I hope you see this post, because I am genuinely interested in your answer. The golf video prompted me to ask.
Have learned that ski companies are much better at marketing than golf club companies.
How many active sets of golf clubs do you have compared to number of pairs of skis?
Great question! Golf is probably one of the most precise sports to master! Hitting a ball far enough to play from the tees that you are playing, hitting it straight enough, flighting the ball the right trajectory through the elements, and spinning a ball enough to stop it the right distance. Then arriving on the green you need to judge the slope, make a stroke with the ball rolling at the correct speed and brake direction. Not easy!For those of you who do play golf (not me), why is it that the nuances of a good swing are so hard to control so that you can reliably do the same thing each time?
Fair enough...especially the last half of the last sentence...but I didn't want to go there!I struggle to find much common between golf and skiing.
Golf you have to keep playing to stay sharp, whereas skiing you could stop for 10 years and start skiing again and not lose nearly the skill as you would at golf. The other thing about skiing is once you learn a skill you generally retain it whereas golf, I can hit a driver well one round and then complete rubbish the next day. It's not like I go skiing and suddenly I can't carve a turn like golf where I suddenly can't putt or hit a driver.
Sure, there are common ground like mental, etc. But I could come as many come up with as many common grounds as solving mathematical calculus problems and skiing as I could golf and skiing. They are not remotely similar to me, other than they are both sports that generally lean toward the wealthy.
I think that's it. A golf swing has to all come together in an instant, and there aren't many of them in a round. If I asked you to go out and make 80 perfectly carved turns of varying radius each from a dead stop, you might have something more equivalent.In ski turns we make a zillion of them, and if we screw up one a little bit, we can compensate with the next. In golf, scew up a swing a little, the ball goes haywire, and you're toast. There aren't that many swings in a golf game, so each one matters way more than a single ski turn.
idk, I fall way more often skiing than I have whiffed a golf ball, but I am a much better skier than golfer. Falling is more akin to a major issue with the strike, IMO (shank, blade, chunk, etc.) ;-)I think that's it. A golf swing has to all come together in an instant, and there aren't many of them in a round. If I asked you to go out and make 80 perfectly carved turns of varying radius each from a dead stop, you might have something more equivalent.
But even then, if I screw up my swing in golf, I go way off track or lose a ball. There's not typically an outcome in a ski turn like that. I suppose it could be falling down, but that's more like missing the ball altogether in golf I think.
And a sailor's vocabularyGolf. Great way to develop kinesthetic awareness.
But even then, if I screw up my swing in golf, I go way off track or lose a ball. There's not typically an outcome in a ski turn like that. I suppose it could be falling down, but that's more like missing the ball altogether in golf I think.
I believe your friend is a very rare exception. Golf and tennis, pros need to warm up and practice first before they go out and play. As far as I know, ski racers or free skiers don't necessarily need to do that. There is something inherently different about the muscle memory.I have an elderly friend who re-took up golf a few years ago, after having not played in maybe 8 or 9 years. It seemed to come back to him immediately and he played way way better than the rest of us - and still does. (I like to say that maybe when I get to be 90 I'll be able to hit the ball like that!)
I think you're conflating a few things. In one case we're talking about long term memory... the most common example being riding a bike. Most people can pick it up again quickly, or don't see any loss of skill, after a long time off. The same holds true, IMO, in golf, tennis, and skiing. If Tiger Woods didn't play for a few years, he's still going to go out that first time out and be infinitely better than I am.I believe your friend is a very rare exception. Golf and tennis, pros need to warm up and practice first before they go out and play. As far as I know, ski racers or free skiers don't necessarily need to do that. There is something inherently different about the muscle memory.I have an elderly friend who re-took up golf a few years ago, after having not played in maybe 8 or 9 years. It seemed to come back to him immediately and he played way way better than the rest of us - and still does. (I like to say that maybe when I get to be 90 I'll be able to hit the ball like that!)
If you were to lay off both sports for a year, which skills would deteriorate more - skiing or golf?Golf and skiing are exactly the same as I have allowed both to become all consuming preferred activities. Both are great with friends or just enjoying the day alone. Both require spending unending hours outside. Both have been passions of mine.
I've definitely said that... not verbatim, but I've had a bad run or even a bad day, that felt very similar to days when my golf swing is messed up (not that it's ever all that great). I more likely said something like "that run was a real struggle" or "I just could not get in the right position".Rarely do I hear experienced recreational skiers say something happened, I need to fix my turns.