Tyrolia Protector Series of Bindings

[Philpug]

Those of us who went to the Attacks years ago for the low stand height and great ski feel, probably won't be making a switch to these any time soon. We'll see.

Probably not especially on wider skis. These will have the same stand height as the current PRD systems that are on narrower skis. Understanding what the binding is designed to do, lateral release from heel, there is the need for mechanisms under the binding.

 

[eok]

I scanned this thread & didn't see an answer for my question:

If I have Head PRD or PRX bindings (like on the Head Titan/Rally/etc series), can you literally just take the PRD/PRX heel off the Head track & slide the Protector heel in it's place? That's assuming some/all of the typical post-install binding adjustment(s) would still be needed.

 

[Philpug]

I scanned this thread & didn't see an answer for my question:

If I have Head PRD or PRX bindings (like on the Head Titan/Rally/etc series), can you literally just take the PRD/PRX heel off the Head track & slide the Protector heel in it's place? That's assuming some/all of the typical post-install binding adjustment(s) would still be needed.

Preview: - Tyrolia Protector Series of Bindings

Who it is for: Do you have knees? Do you have knee issues or concerns?

www.skitalk.com

... the Protector is backwards compatible. If you are currently skiing a ski that has a PRD-derived or Attack2 demo binding, you can purchase a Protector and it will slide onto your current track without the need to remount. Of course we recommend to get a full ASTM check.

 

[Henry]

Do we know the delta of the Protector?

 

[Philpug]

Do we know the delta of the Protector?

Same as PRD and Attack 14 respectively.

 

[eok]

Preview: - Tyrolia Protector Series of Bindings

Who it is for: Do you have knees? Do you have knee issues or concerns?

www.skitalk.com

... the Protector is backwards compatible. If you are currently skiing a ski that has a PRD-derived or Attack2 demo binding, you can purchase a Protector and it will slide onto your current track without the need to remount. Of course we recommend to get a full ASTM check.

So, is the adjustable track on my pair of 2019 Titans compatible? Sorry if I seem dense, but I'm not sure if by "demo binding" you mean the same thing as a Head PRD/PRX system binding.

 

[Philpug]

So, is the track on my pair of 2019 Titans compatible?

I believe it will be.

 

[Plai]

Preview: - Tyrolia Protector Series of Bindings

Who it is for: Do you have knees? Do you have knee issues or concerns?

www.skitalk.com

... the Protector is backwards compatible. If you are currently skiing a ski that has a PRD-derived or Attack2 demo binding, you can purchase a Protector and it will slide onto your current track without the need to remount. Of course we recommend to get a full ASTM check.

Missed the preview. Just saw the released version of the YT video.
Of course, the above statement caught my attention. Now to get matching colors, or go for the discordant look? Ah, wait a moment, I moved to Solomon Wardens when the site moved. Great job of making me want to move back to Tyrolia

 

[Ktmdad]

So as I follow with interest these new Protector series bindings from Tyrolia (and a current Knee binding user) I’m not sure if anyone had posted weights and stand height? It’s up on Tyrolia’s sight now but I’ll save you the time.

It is indeed heavier than the Knee bindings which average about 2,100 grams (4.63lbs) per pair depending on model.
The Tyrolia Protector Attack 13 weighs 2860 grams (6.31lbs) per pair. That’s 1.68lbs heavier per pair or .84lbs heavier per ski than Knee bindings which are already heavy.
The Protector PR 13 (for use on skis with built in Power Rail so that additional rail weight is built into the ski that the bare binding slides onto) which also uses the different toe piece than the Protector Attack weighs in at 2370 grams (5.22lbs)
or 2.61lbs per ski + rail weight built into ski. It is part of the binding setup after all.
Stand height from web sites
Knee Binding 26mm
Attack 13 Protector 32mm
Protector PR 13 33.5mm

So by stats alone the new Protectors are heavier (to an already heavy Knee binding which like mentioned above I use) with a even higher stand height. What you gain is the nice multi-directional release and I’ll assume better toe pieces especially on the Attack 13 Protector (If someone more knowledgeable than myself could explain those differences please do so as I don’t actually know)

So yeah was really hoping for a lighter weight binding with similar or lower stand height and especially for my 115lb significant other who also is on Knee Bindings. Not quite ready to rush out and buy these….yet. Do love that dual release heel.


PROTECTOR ATTACK 13 MN

• Stand height
• 32 mm

DIN:

• 4 - 13

WEIGHT:

• 2860 g

FEATURES

• FR PRO3 Toe
• Attack Demo
• ISO: 5355A, 9523, 9523W, 9523 GripWalk
• HR Heel

PROTECTOR PR 13

STAND HEIGHT:

• 33,5 mm

DIN:

• 4 - 13

WEIGHT:

• 2370 g

FEATURES

• RX Toe with TRP System
• Full Diagonal
• PowerRail
• ISO: 5355A, 9523 GripWalk
• HR Heel

Here are the Knee Binding stats for 22/23

 

[Philpug]

@Ktmdad much of the Protector specs are posted here:

Comparison Review - 2023 Tyrolia Bindings

2023 Tyrolia Bindings MODEL TOE HEIGHT (mm) HEEL HEIGHT (mm) SETTING RANGE WEIGHT (g/pr) STANDARD BRAKE SIZES (mm) OPTIONAL BRAKE SIZES (mm) SOLE COMPATIBILITY SX 10 GW 13 21 3-10 1650 78 [J] DIN, GripWalk AM 12 GW 13 21 3.5-12 1980 85, 95, 110 [D] 130, 150 DIN, GripWalk Protector...

www.skitalk.com

As far as stand height, with most the lateral mechanisms being under the heel, I am not sure how much lower as it can be. There will be ongoing comparisons with the Protector and Kneebinding for a while and it will come down to preference and confidence.

 

[Ktmdad]

@Ktmdad much of the Protector specs are posted here:

Comparison Review - 2023 Tyrolia Bindings

2023 Tyrolia Bindings MODEL TOE HEIGHT (mm) HEEL HEIGHT (mm) SETTING RANGE WEIGHT (g/pr) STANDARD BRAKE SIZES (mm) OPTIONAL BRAKE SIZES (mm) SOLE COMPATIBILITY SX 10 GW 13 21 3-10 1650 78 [J] DIN, GripWalk AM 12 GW 13 21 3.5-12 1980 85, 95, 110 [D] 130, 150 DIN, GripWalk Protector...

www.skitalk.com

As far as stand height, with most the lateral mechanisms being under the heel, I am not sure how much lower as it can be. There will be ongoing comparisons with the Protector and Kneebinding for a while and it will come down to preference and confidence.

Thank you Phil, hadn’t seen that.

can you please explain the differences pros/cons between the toe pieces of the Protector series or perhaps a link to such?
Thanks

 

[Philpug]

Thank you Phil, hadn’t seen that.

can you please explain the differences pros/cons between the toe pieces of the Protector series or perhaps a link to such?
Thanks

Between the PR toe and Attack toe?

The PR toe has a longitudinal spring which allows more elasticity and the Attack toe which is a lateral spring which is a quicker return to center and is MN (multinorm).

 

[Dwight]

Are the Protector bindings, demo bindings? Every picture I see online, makes it look that way. Are they going to sell just the heel pieces?

 

[Philpug]

Are the Protector bindings, demo bindings? Every picture I see online, makes it look that way. Are they going to sell just the heel pieces?

They all use the track system. No, the heels will not be available separately.

 

[Scott OneLogic]

How does the Protector level of knee protection compare with the Look Pivot?

 

[CascadeConcrete]

The Pivot is a standard alpine binding without lateral release at the heel. The Protector adds lateral release at the heel to help prevent ACL tears in backwards twisting falls. KneeBindings are the only real competitor to the Protector in this sense.

 

[Steve Martin]

Has anybody seen these in the stores yet? Getting anxious

 

[Philpug]

How does the Protector level of knee protection compare with the Look Pivot?

The Look Pivot allows the toe to release a little easier because it rotates along the the tiblial access. The Protector allows for lateral release from the heel in either direction which can help mitigate knee injury.

 

[Scott OneLogic]

Thanks so much! I just pre-ordered a pair.

 

[Slim]

@Philpug anyone have a list of skis that come with these bindings as system skis?