California/Nevada Welcome to Palisades Tahoe The Name is New. The Legend Continues.

[Philpug]

Agreed. But it might make people think differently about buying merchandise

Yes, and as @dbostedo said, he is looking forward to buying the merchandise.

 

[Lauren]

I guess it could go either way

 

[Alexzn]

I guess saying "I skied Palisades today" will feel a lot less cool now .

 

[Philpug]

I actually think it would. Some portion of the casual visitors was coming to Squaw Valley because they saw the resort in ski movies, that association is now gone. You will be surprised how many people heard about Squaw Valley and wanted to visit it because of the 1960 Olympic Games, that association is now gone as well.

But are they NOT going to come? It will be more "Oh the name changed and either, well that make sense or well that sucks, and will still come.

 

[Philpug]

And make no mistake, this change was NOT about the money, it was about doing what was right. If this was about the money, they would have looked the other way and kept the Squaw name because this change easily is in the solid six figures...very well seven figues.

 

[Alexzn]

But are they NOT going to come? It will be more "Oh the name changed and either, well that make sense or well that sucks, and will still come.

Some odd them will not come, because they won't spend 30 seconds googling the name, or they will stay at Northstar or Heavenly. You don't realize how many people I met on the lifts who were curious about skiing at Squaw for a day because it was so famous.

Yes, the change costs Alterra a lot, and I have to admire their determination. Definitely wont buy them more good will with the locals, and they have not had much to begin with. I still think that as far as culture wars go, this one was on the weaker side, but I digress.

 

[Dougb]

I don’t care what it’s called I fully intend to ski there this winter!

 

[Tony S]

I don't think I've ever agreed with Phil this many times in one thread.

 

[David Chaus]

I actually think it would. Some portion of the casual visitors was coming to Squaw Valley because they saw the resort in ski movies, that association is now gone. You will be surprised how many people heard about Squaw Valley and wanted to visit it because of the 1960 Olympic Games, that association is now gone as well.

That....that would just be so horrible to have fewer casual visitors.

 

[pais alto]

And make no mistake, this change was NOT about the money, it was about doing what was right. If this was about the money, they would have looked the other way and kept the Squaw name because this change easily is in the solid six figures...very well seven figues.

Emphasis of the baseline truth. Grousing won’t change that.

 

[Andy Mink]

Locals and diehards will continue to call it Squaw, or Squalpine, if for no other reason than to be contrary. That's their deal, just like long timers (myself included) still call the Winters Creek side of Mt. Rose Ski Tahoe (Rose, for the locals) "the Slide side" since it used to be a stand-alone ski area called Slide Mountain. The snow, the mountain, the traffic, and the crowds will remain the same. Only the name has changed.

 

[skibob]

Yes, and as @dbostedo said, he is looking forward to buying the merchandise.

I want a dark grey T-Shirt with a med-large logo centered on the chest. "Palisades Tahoe" on the back, but no words on the front. Just the logo. And I don't even ski there often. But I will buy that shirt first chance I get.

 

[Alexzn]

That....that would just be so horrible to have fewer casual visitors.

Yes, for a ski resort business that needs customers it would be pretty bad. And Alterra does not make a lot of money off season pass holders. They need people to buy tickets at the window or online, eat burgers and drink $9 beers (I don't even know how much they cost now).

 

[Alexzn]

Locals and diehards will continue to call it Squaw, or Squalpine, if for no other reason than to be contrary. That's their deal, just like long timers (myself included) still call the Winters Creek side of Mt. Rose Ski Tahoe (Rose, for the locals) "the Slide side" since it used to be a stand-alone ski area called Slide Mountain. The snow, the mountain, the traffic, and the crowds will remain the same. Only the name has changed.

Andy- with all due respect to Slide and Rose, it just does not have the same history. Here is the Wikipedia article on the 1960 Olympiad. Where was that? Let me see, can't find it on the map or on the web anymore... Oh, wait, it is called Palisades Tahoe now, but never mind...

 

[dbostedo]

Here is the Wikipedia article on the 1960 Olympiad.

I disagree that a lot of people ski there because of the 1960 Olympics. That was a billion years ago. Long before I was born. I took the usual touristy Olympic logo pictures when I first visited Olympic Valley, and I thought that was cool. But I was not visiting because of the Olympics at all. It's not like they've had ad campaigns about "ski where the Olympics your grandparents watched were held".

 

[Andy Mink]

Andy- with all due respect to Slide and Rose, it just does not have the same history. Here is the Wikipedia article on the 1960 Olympiad. Where was that? Let me see, can't find it on the map or on the web anymore... Oh, wait, it is called Palisades Tahoe now, but never mind...
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I'm aware that Rose (see, there I go again) doesn't have the same history as Palisades. My point is people will stick, at least for a while, to what they've been calling it. Another Olympic tidbit, the Galena Creek Ski Jump was the alternate for the '60 Olympic ski jump competition. That's Galena Creek Park now.

 

[scott43]

I mean..Phil nailed it. The name HAD to change..make your racial epithet comparison. After that it's just a matter of what the new name will be. Nothing else changed...

 

[Andy Mink]

"ski where the Olympics your grandparents watched were held"

*ahem* My PARENTS. My mom and dad were in the USMC at the time and mom was at Squaw Valley because the Corps was hauling snow from the Mountain Warfare Training Center near Pickel Meadows near Bridgeport because it was a low tide year.

 

[Wendy]

Those are cars right?
ok edited, besides the Palisades in NJ, and So Cal's Pacific Palisades, here is wikipedia's version of the Sierra Nevada Palisades

Palisades (California Sierra) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

so I guess generic for bluff or mountain......

I’m a geek and happy that the new name is of geological significance.

I want a t-shirt.

 

[Wendy]

*ahem* My PARENTS. My mom and dad were in the USMC at the time and mom was at Squaw Valley because the Corps was hauling snow from the Mountain Warfare Training Center near Pickel Meadows near Bridgeport because it was a low tide year.

Um…..my brother was 8 and my sister was 6 in 1960. They probably watched it with my parents.