Skiing the powder
- Nov 12, 2015
One example may simply be that someone is having difficulty releasing their inside ski without lifting it.So what purpose and tangible result would a slow speed WP turn drill serve? What would you observe that would lead you to use it?
SureLotta good sense in your post. Got to agree that Hirscher probably didn't set out to do WP turns - was just having fun with a tonne of rebound.
So what is the skier issue that would lead you to getting them to do that slower speed version? What skill are you intending to develop? What is the desired outcome in normal skiing?
Edit: And I see Mike King has similar question...
that was not the only time that I have had to ski down on one leg but it was certainly the best conditions .Nice one ski in the pow! Did you swap legs?
The LTE does tend to catch and submarine, no matter how slow the set-down.Not a fan of WP drills in pow and chop.
What do you use a WP turn for? And what do you look for as a result in ski and body performance?
Ah yes, you mentioned this. Such contortions.Patience in angulating. Angulating too quickly at the top of the turn
Think we are miscommunicating well.Ah yes, you mentioned this. Such contortions.
Did we determine the reason for the NZ guy in urban winter camo to raise his outside hip so much? The reverse comma seems a gumby show.
As for reasons to do the exercise- people who are never moving into the new turn but staying in the old one so long they end up stemming, pushing off, etc. to start the new one. Railroad tracks with turning well across the fall line I would probably do before WP.
But see, such a use is almost the opposite of patience.
Mostly correct.I've come to think of angulation as primarily for lateral balance.
eh not too much. In my case it's mostly lazyness as opposed to an actual movement of letting the upper body into the turn.Only incline the lower legs...?
Reilly. Watch the angle of the jacket zipper.
Well there is the small matter of grip. Platform angle less than 90 degrees - sweet. So the question is: how much do angulation is needed for that? Plus some extra to allow for torsional flattening at tip and tail - more for you as you get a tonne of performance out of the ski.Mostly correct.
It's also very important along with coiling/ca to help establish and reinforce your contact with the snow.
Not so much an actual movement as just using The Force. Tessa doesn't look to be doing any extra move, just lets it flow into the next turn.eh not too much. In my case it's mostly lazyness as opposed to an actual movement of letting the upper body into the turn.
Usually not too much. There's almost never any real need to have your upper body perfectly vertical in the turn, it's just too much effort for too little return. Though there are some cases where you do need as much as possible (think bulletproof ice) but at that point your grip is mostly determined by how strong your counter is, not so much your angulation. But of course you never want to be going full tree trunk in your turns, as that will reduce your ability to balance by a significant margin.how much do angulation is needed for that?
Well that’s what I’m curious about. If you’re not inside the turn, what’s there to counterbalance? What do these people with excessive early angulation look like?I've come to think of angulation as primarily for lateral balance. And I see no reason to restore balance as soon as the CoM crosses the skis and every reason to hold back somewhat. Patience.
Yeah but that’s well into the turn. It’s the early part that we’re talking, and transition. One could fumble around and then get there late. I.e., the impatient.If we can do a drill something like this then I would hazard a that it shows plenty of commitment to the outside ski.
I agree with @Steve, those don't fit the definition of a WPT. She is staying on the inside ski until or past transition. In a WPT the outside ski is set down at apex/fall line.@Steve, why do you say these are not White Pass Turns? I'm curious. The ones at the start of the video look like WPTs to me. This thread confirms that there are many ways to do a WPT.
I like that the skier does a broad variety of versions of inside ski turns. She makes it all look like play.
No, they’re not WP turns. Looks close, but do your video frame breakdown, you’ll see. She transitions off the old inside, not new inside. Also, wp has the outside ski put down in the fall line.