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Wanted: clip of WP in true powder, not ankle deep.
It sure would be fun to create some video of it, to try it and explore it. It seems like it would be pretty hard to see it happening though.
Wanted: clip of WP in true powder, not ankle deep.
One example may simply be that someone is having difficulty releasing their inside ski without lifting it.So what purpose and tangible result would a slow speed WP turn drill serve? What would you observe that would lead you to use it?
SureLotta good sense in your post. Got to agree that Hirscher probably didn't set out to do WP turns - was just having fun with a tonne of rebound.
So what is the skier issue that would lead you to getting them to do that slower speed version? What skill are you intending to develop? What is the desired outcome in normal skiing?
Edit: And I see Mike King has similar question...
that was not the only time that I have had to ski down on one leg but it was certainly the best conditions .Nice one ski in the pow! Did you swap legs?
Not a fan of WP drills in pow and chop.
What do you use a WP turn for? And what do you look for as a result in ski and body performance?
Ah yes, you mentioned this. Such contortions.Patience in angulating. Angulating too quickly at the top of the turn
Ah yes, you mentioned this. Such contortions.
Did we determine the reason for the NZ guy in urban winter camo to raise his outside hip so much? The reverse comma seems a gumby show.
As for reasons to do the exercise- people who are never moving into the new turn but staying in the old one so long they end up stemming, pushing off, etc. to start the new one. Railroad tracks with turning well across the fall line I would probably do before WP.
But see, such a use is almost the opposite of patience.
I've come to think of angulation as primarily for lateral balance.
Only incline the lower legs...?
Reilly. Watch the angle of the jacket zipper.
Mostly correct.
It's also very important along with coiling/ca to help establish and reinforce your contact with the snow.
eh not too much. In my case it's mostly lazyness as opposed to an actual movement of letting the upper body into the turn.
how much do angulation is needed for that?
Well that’s what I’m curious about. If you’re not inside the turn, what’s there to counterbalance? What do these people with excessive early angulation look like?I've come to think of angulation as primarily for lateral balance. And I see no reason to restore balance as soon as the CoM crosses the skis and every reason to hold back somewhat. Patience.
Yeah but that’s well into the turn. It’s the early part that we’re talking, and transition. One could fumble around and then get there late. I.e., the impatient.If we can do a drill something like this then I would hazard a that it shows plenty of commitment to the outside ski.
They look like hip dumpers.Well that’s what I’m curious about. If you’re not inside the turn, what’s there to counterbalance? What do these people with excessive early angulation look like?
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I agree with @Steve, those don't fit the definition of a WPT. She is staying on the inside ski until or past transition. In a WPT the outside ski is set down at apex/fall line.@Steve, why do you say these are not White Pass Turns? I'm curious. The ones at the start of the video look like WPTs to me. This thread confirms that there are many ways to do a WPT.
I like that the skier does a broad variety of versions of inside ski turns. She makes it all look like play.
No, they’re not WP turns. Looks close, but do your video frame breakdown, you’ll see. She transitions off the old inside, not new inside. Also, wp has the outside ski put down in the fall line.@Steve, why do you say these are not White Pass Turns? I'm curious. The ones at the start of the video look like WPTs to me. This thread confirms that there are many ways to do a WPT.