raytseng

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My local bootfitter, who is a Zipfit dealer, suggested against Zipfits if I don't ski enough days per year (10-20 days on average). The reasoning is that it takes a couple days each season to get the liners broken in / OMFit adjusted and it's not worth dealing with the process if a good percentage of your days in the liner are not optimal.

This seems wrong based on everything I've read about Zipfits. I assume that I can walk around the house prior to the season starting to rework the OMFit.

What's the group consensus? Are Zipfits worth it if one is only skiing 15 days per year? I recognize that price can be a factor but I'm disregarding it for this analysis.
I will go with your bootfitter and don't think they are necessarily wrong; and 15days is probably correct as a cross over point. A lot of that weight is the initial dialing it in which may take 10 skidays for you to dial it in and make adjustments. If your bootfitter isn't on mountain that you can't just go midday or between ski days; that could take half a season away with you skiing in pain. If you even look in this thread there are a good number of folks still having with the soft tongue and needing to add cork here and there. There is something also to be said about the booting up hassle which is also harder the less you get used to it.

The question is: if they are saying they don't recommend zipfits for you...the followup is that means they have another better recommendation for you. So what is the alternative option here for your usage pattern?
I think you can get equally good results like a foam injection (like surefoot) or other aftermarket liner if that's what they are thinking. If chosen and setup properly can be ready to ski on day 1 with less breakin issues; and less chance that you need to go back for adjustments, and ostensibly no soft tongue issues
Although these will pack out faster than the zipfits and there are reports of decreasing quality, these aftermarket options still should be very high performing for 100days; and good performing or fixed up to be good for another 100days. So that's puts this setup in the 8-16 seasons range. You will probably will be ready for the next thing anyway or global warming or corporate greed will have changed skiing.
 

TipsUp

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The question is: if they are saying they don't recommend zipfits for you...the followup is that means they have another better recommendation for you. So what is the alternative option here for your usage pattern?
Their comment was in general. I notified them I was interested in ordering Zipfits when I get fitted for new boots in September. It's possible the stock lining of whatever boot selects me would be good enough.
 

Brian Finch

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Looking to make the RS 130 my next boot. My buddy’s set up:

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What liner for the RS?
 

coops

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My local bootfitter, who is a Zipfit dealer, suggested against Zipfits if I don't ski enough days per year (10-20 days on average). The reasoning is that it takes a couple days each season to get the liners broken in / OMFit adjusted and it's not worth dealing with the process if a good percentage of your days in the liner are not optimal.

This seems wrong based on everything I've read about Zipfits. I assume that I can walk around the house prior to the season starting to rework the OMFit.

What's the group consensus? Are Zipfits worth it if one is only skiing 15 days per year? I recognize that price can be a factor but I'm disregarding it for this analysis.
Also completely disagree...especially if you are being properly fit for them first time.

That first time should include a good hot bake of the zipfits (with footbeds removed) to get the omfit goop good and mobile. Then footbeds in and liners on feet and into shells. Tightly (very) clamped up and then walk and flex for 20 to 30 minutes to move that omfit around while it's much more fluid than normal.
Then take your boots and go skiing for that last 5% of fit - and immediately have better control & comfort over stock liners.

Use a heated boot bag or hot air blower/dryers every morning to warm up the liner and also warm up that omfit so it can move where needed that much easier early on and you'll be kicking yourself for not having got zipfits earlier.
They can be moved to a new pair of boots in a few years time when the old boot shell wears out - so they are better value than they first appear.
 

slidingmike

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@Brian Finch I guess it depends on how tight you go with the RS 130. I have about 1cm of space behind my heel in a shell fit, and the Gara LV is working well for that. If you have more space, get the Gara HV. If you have a race fit, possibly the Corsa. You may need to adjust with additional cork.

Are there additional options that others would recommend for a RS 130?
 

Doublegreen

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I disagree with your bootfitter. Even if I only skied 5 days a years, I would be so miserable in my Cochise liners that it shorten my days significantly. Cost effective? No, but I don’t care because they are so damn comfortable.
 

BMC

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My local bootfitter, who is a Zipfit dealer, suggested against Zipfits if I don't ski enough days per year (10-20 days on average). The reasoning is that it takes a couple days each season to get the liners broken in / OMFit adjusted and it's not worth dealing with the process if a good percentage of your days in the liner are not optimal.

This seems wrong based on everything I've read about Zipfits. I assume that I can walk around the house prior to the season starting to rework the OMFit.

What's the group consensus? Are Zipfits worth it if one is only skiing 15 days per year? I recognize that price can be a factor but I'm disregarding it for this analysis.
I don’t agree with that advice. The Omfit doesn’t reset between seasons, at least so far as I know. At 15 days a season though you may well never need to buy another set of liners. You could get 50 years out of them, properly cared for.
 
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