I didn’t ski Volkl last season ski’d Hero’s and Dobermanns. The Nordica have the most aggressive tune 3 .5) and they are the best ski I’ve ever been on. The Rossi are fun cruiser. Both skis are mounted one hole forward recommended and gas pedal in toe.How do you compare the Racetigers to the Rossis?
People are free to ski on whatever they want, and I get that FIS skis are exciting.
That being said I kind of agree with the OP, that if you're looking for one front side carver, any FIS ski is compromised. A GS ski just isn't safe or fun in a lot of situations with the general public, and a slalom ski, very few can ski well and it requires so many turns. If you wanna have a pair for your quiver, sure, have at it. But if your buying just one frontside carver? Definitely not.
I've spent an absurd amount of time of FIS skis both as a racer and coach(6x week for 13 years). I've had the most fun on that 14-17m ski with race-like performance. I demoed some head E-Race Pros and it was hands down the most fun time I've ever had on groomers. Race ski energy but the versatility to play with turn shape/size and speed like you can't on FIS skis. And the non pro versions should suit alot of people. I cant imagine every buying another FIS ski unless I end up in gates again, which I don't plan on.
Your right, it does. I grew up oh a hill with 300 feet of vert, so I get it if that's the only place you have to ski. But I feel I can push a 14-16m ski into a tight enough turn to enjoy there, while also opening it up on a larger run.It really depends where do you ski. The runs on my home mountain are of the short-ish, steep-ish kind almost always hard and icy. And crowded. I love my WRTs 180 to bits but even their 16.3 radius is an overkill as i like to carve. It just gets too fast too soon. FIS SL are just perfect for me. Alternatively-the short WRT. longer radius ski I pull out only when the crowds thin towards the end of the season or when I go to another mountain.
I ski’d a pair of Volkl Deacon Pros a couple season ago ( the piston plate version) great ski but as with even short FIS GS skis (183) they wanted to run and run hard. The thing I like about FIS slalom (especially the Dobermanns) is they don’t really have a speed limit. Sure you can’t park n ride - if those tails lock up it can be problematic but skiing with good technique is what we want right? Unless they’re fluffy pillows ( something rarely seen in these parts) I don’t ski bumps anymore.It really depends where do you ski. The runs on my home mountain is of the short-ish, steep-ish kind almost always hard and icy. And crowded. I love my WRTs 180 to bits but even their 16.3 radius is an overkill as i like to carve. It just gets too fast too soon. FIS SL are just perfect for me. Alternatively-the short WRT. longer radius ski I pull out only when the crowds thin towards the end of the season or when I go to another mountain.
"Last decade I spent most of my days on 170 iSupershapes not sure if that’s considered a similar ski to the e Race or not."
I totally get this & agree. I also get the small hill with icy conditions.it requires so many turns. If you wanna have a pair for your quiver, sure, have at it. But if your buying just one frontside carver? Definitely not.
I totally get this & agree. I also get the small hill with icy conditions.
One of my sayings is that a FIS SL ski can make a mountain out of a molehill! If that’s what you looking for (& I am) then there’s nothing better. The fact that “it requires so many turns” is a plus as far as I’m concerned. I can always quit when they wear me out or switch to a more forgiving ski which for me right now is a Stockli AR but it could be any ski in that radius/width family.
& they’re not as sensitive when it gets soft…
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We talk a lot about the power/finesse scale. The Supershape is on the power scale to the Shape but on the finesse side to the e.Race which is on the finesse side compared to the Rebels which is on the finesse to the World Cup.The Supershapes are more relaxed, less responsive, and reduced in power compared to an e.Race Pro.
There are lots of posts on this in previous threads most by @ScotsSkier.It seems to me that whenever somebody wants a frontside/carving ski recommendation around here, many are quick to suggest an FIS Slalom ski. I am curious as to why? As somebody that has spent significant time on race specific skis, I cannot wrap my head around this. I actually feel this is dangerous to suggest these skis to somebody that isn't used to a performance ski like this. Seems like a way to tire somebody out quicker and possibly (probably?) tear an ACL.
I ski a Head eSpeed Pro GS ski that isn't as "sporting" as an FIS Slalom as my race ski, and I ski it well. However, when the racing/training is done, I like to slide over to an all-mountain frontside carving ski. They just don't beat me up as much, not to mention, much more versatile on the hill. Moguls on a race ski isn't really my cup of tea anymore.
Don't get me wrong, these skis have a place, but I'm not sure they are an idea ski for most people as they are often suggested.