Wine and Cheese - Not So Fast

[Tony S]

Obviously a glass of wine with some bread and cheese can be great. However, my experience is that it's not a gimme. Lots of cheese and wine combinations are uninspiring or even yucky. I don't pretend to be good at knowing how to ensure success. What are some specific matches that you like?

The one I stumbled into this evening - that sparked this post - is Palo Cortado sherry ( @Jerez ), apple, and cheddar. Good stuff.

 

[wooglin]

White wine. Preferably cheap. Definitely not red. And is sherry even wine? Why do they call it sherry then?

 

[scott43]

White wine. Preferably cheap. Definitely not red. And is sherry even wine? Why do they call it sherry then?

Cuz sherry sounds better than "drunken housewife"...

 

[Tony S]

White wine. Preferably cheap. Definitely not red. And is sherry even wine? Why do they call it sherry then?

Sherry is wine. As for why they call it sherry, there is a clue in my post above.

Rudyard Kipling actually has a "Just So" story about that exact thing. It's called, "How Sherry Got Her Name."

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Sherry | Types, Production & History | Britannica

Sherry, fortified wine of Spanish origin that typically has a distinctive nutty flavour. It takes its name from the province of Jerez de la Frontera in Andalusia, Spain, sherry being an Anglicization of Jerez. The substance is also produced elsewhere—notably in Cyprus, South Africa, Australia, and

www.britannica.com

 

[Jilly]

Chocolate and Cab Sav....

 

[Mel]

Okanagan wine and cheezies- a very Canadian pairing

 

[Tony S]

Chocolate and Cab Sav....

Cheese, Gromit, cheese!

 

[Jilly]

Okanagan wine and cheezies- a very Canadian pairing
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[Mel]

You need a bigger bag!! Best product made right at home!

Oh I wanted a bigger bag, but I really don’t need them at all! These were the Halloween size ones I stole from my kids. They taste even better when they’re someone else’s.

 

[cantunamunch]

White wine.

When in doubt, use Aligote or Greco di Tufo .

That said, Maywine is surprisingly good with smoked firm rind cheese.

 

[mdf]

Honestly, I haven't given it a lot of thought, but ...
acid with fat, so something like a barbera or a crisp white with a soft cheese, tannic red with a strongly flavored cheese like one of the better cheddars or an aged gouda.
Lighter red with more delicate hard cheeses.
Bleu pairing can be a problem.

We don't drink a lot of really good whites, but I can envision a white burgundy with a good cheddar.

 

[cantunamunch]

Obviously a glass of wine with some bread and cheese can be great. However, my experience is that it's not a gimme. Lots of cheese and wine combinations are uninspiring or even yucky.

I think it's at least partly a problem with the USAian palette of cheese availability. I mean take away high-fat cheddars, take away rubbery pseudo-swiss, what are you left with? And don't even get me started on pseudo-fontina.


You know it's bad when queso duro viejo and cotija and cacique from the Hispanic aisle pair better with wine than cheeses from the Boars Head aisle. And those will go with most things, particularly when seethed in veg broth, like as an adjunct to ratatouille.

That said, Humboldt Fog for with reds is where I start

 

[cantunamunch]

Oh, hey, would a pepato be too brutal with that Nerello Mascalese you were knocking back the other night?

 

[cantunamunch]

acid with fat, so something like a barbera or a crisp white with a soft cheese, tannic red with a strongly flavored cheese like one of the better cheddars or an aged gouda.
Lighter red with more delicate hard cheeses.
Bleu pairing can be a problem.

We don't drink a lot of really good whites, but I can envision a white burgundy with a good cheddar.

Cremant fixes everything BUBBLES with fat

 

[graham418]

Maybe its just me , but I have always felt that cheese ruins the taste of wine, and vice versa

 

[Tony S]

That said, Humboldt Fog for with reds is where I start

Okay, now we're getting some specifics.

 

[Tony S]

Maybe its just me , but I have always felt that cheese ruins the taste of wine, and vice versa

Yeah, that was kind of my point. Sometimes it does.

 

[cantunamunch]

 

[Tony S]

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and ... ?

 

[cantunamunch]

and ... ?

Pierre-Marie Chermette. Inevitably. You know this.

There was a slight detour, not worth elaborating.