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Awesome!! Is this the APC in Oslo? And are those the STI 110s?Had booked a few hours at atomic pro center today for us, my work was a fairly quick fix and mostly measurments / notes for the plastic work, so lots of time for my GF to test, she has broken her ancles a few times and hates when there is too much room and if its not tight, our plan was to test out a pair of 110 CS, but what did we end up with? We were there just to test, but the process was so good she bought them.
One of our best customer services experiences in a while, so friendly, and extremely knowledgeable, and nothing was rushed. They did alot of adjustments for her, things I had no idea could be done. Need to finish up another meeting and we are hitting the slopes! New atomic FIS SL 155's for her as well...
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The boots on the picture have the dual strap of the 130, so I am curious too.Awesome!! Is this the APC in Oslo? And are those the STI 110s?
Awesome!! Is this the APC in Oslo? And are those the STI 110s?
Atomic's "Own" stores, meaning it is purely an Atomic shop run by the brand, are not in the USA yet.Where are the Atomic Pro Centers in North America?
Good eye. The Oslo APC also has direct ties to the Atomic APC in Altenmarkt, Austria and they often "build" boots from scratch, so you can see a lot of irregular configurations come out of these "own" APCs.The boots on the picture have the dual strap of the 130, so I am curious too.
@anders_nor what are the body stats of your GF?
Matt(@onenerdykid ), can you share a bit more about this "building up" boots from scratch. I get the idea of mixing different parts(cuff, clog, straps.. etc) to match the anatomy and needs of the skier but do you end up paying a premium for that service for the final "boot" or it's something that "mortals" can enjoy too . Also, when buying boots from APC in Altenmarkt is bootfiting included or it's a separate service.Good eye. The Oslo APC also has direct ties to the Atomic APC in Altenmarkt, Austria and they often "build" boots from scratch, so you can see a lot of irregular configurations come out of these "own" APCs.
FIS athletes always have their boots built up for them. Mortals can have this done but it's usually race level flexes and being additional services there will be a charge. I'm not exactly sure of the pricing but can check on that.Matt(@onenerdykid ), can you share a bit more about this "building up" boots from scratch. I get the idea of mixing different parts(cuff, clog, straps.. etc) to match the anatomy and needs of the skier but do you end up paying a premium for that service for the final "boot" or it's something that "mortals" can enjoy too . Also, when buying boots from APC in Altenmarkt is bootfiting included or it's a separate service.
She is 172cm and 68.5KG (I checked our digital scale)
A fast response to some of your questions, if you don't mind, your Ultra has adjustments for 13,15,17 degrees of forward lean, CS is either 16 or 18(one time fix through the drilling of the 2nd bolt hole), cuff adjustment if not on par is better for the CS for sure, it's the same as their real race boots(excentric adjustment, 4° in total).You, sir, are in big trouble, if GF ever finds out you posted this publicly!
@onenerdykid I'm in a bit of a quandary. The Professional liners I ordered for my Hawx Ultra 130s in 29.5 just don't "feel" like they are going to show up this season. With the stock Mimic liners, the boots are a bit big on overall volume, but perfect in the length department, so thinking of ordering a pair of Redster CS 130 Professionals for next season instead.
How do specs like zeppa, forward lean, canting, etc. compare?
Thank you.
The Atomic site only lists one single APC "partner" in the western US, which is The Racers Edge in Breckenridge, CO. This must be one of the latter type you refer to above. Is the website up to date?Atomic's "Own" stores, meaning it is purely an Atomic shop run by the brand, are not in the USA yet.
The USA has Atomic Pro Center partner stores (specialist retailers not owned/run by Atomic and thus carry other boot/ski/clothing/etc. brands) and you can find them in the dealer locator on atomic.com
Normally, a Platinum liner is made with firmer materials than the Gold, so it should feel a bit snugger and more responsive. But, your Platinum liners have been heat molded (along with the shell) and skied on for X-amount of days. I'm not that surprised that the Platinum liner feels a bit looser in the new shell. It's not only molded but molded to heated shell.Matt, as noted a few pages back, I swapped my 2019-20 Hawx Ultra 120 S for 2021-22 110s and the flex is a better fit for me. However, on the recommendation of my bootfitter, I have been using the Platinum liner from the 120s not the Gold of the 110s. The eye test would say the Gold liner has more "volume" (kinda closer to an Intuition) and when I ski the 110/Platinum combo it "feels" like there is more room in the 110 shell than there was in the 120s - seems like I have to buckle measurably tighter to achieve the heel lock. Note: I heat molded the Platinum liner AND shell when I bought the 120s but have not heat molded the 110 shell nor the Platinum liner into the 110 shell. Is this volume issue just my imagination? Or should I be molding the liner to the 110 shell? Or molding both the Platinum liner and the 110 shell? Thanks
As much as I would love for your sons to have Atomic boots, they need to have this decided by a boot-fitter who can actually measure the various dimensions of their feet and see those feet inside the shells in order to make the best decision. If you buy a boot online not knowing if it is actually the right boot for you, there is a very high probability that it's the wrong boot for you, almost guaranteed to be wrong. I know the desire to buy a boot online and get it fitted elsewhere seems like a good idea, but you need to avoid going down that road unless you want to buy things twice.Matt,
Want to buy my 2 sons new boots. They are 20 and 18 yrs old now and have been skiing since little kids. My 20 yr old, sz 25.5, thinking about getting him prime 130, 21 model and my 18 yr old, 26.5 sz same boot. Took my 18 year old to REI and tried on ultra 120 sz 26.5, fit very tight and think prime or magna would be better but didn’t have his sz. Also worried he might outgrow 26.5, would you size up? Does the prime 130, 21 model yr have same platinum mimic liners like 22 model yr? Or is it worth it to get prime 130 professional? Worried because of price and their ages, their feet might grow or change a little. There are no good boot fitters in Los Angeles area. Probably buy online and taking it to Mammoth to get it fitted for them.
Matt,As much as I would love for your sons to have Atomic boots, they need to have this decided by a boot-fitter who can actually measure the various dimensions of their feet and see those feet inside the shells in order to make the best decision. If you buy a boot online not knowing if it is actually the right boot for you, there is a very high probability that it's the wrong boot for you, almost guaranteed to be wrong. I know the desire to buy a boot online and get it fitted elsewhere seems like a good idea, but you need to avoid going down that road unless you want to buy things twice.
Between 20/21 and 21/22 versions, Mimic Platinum liners are the same. A Mimic Professional liner is definitely a huge upgrade, but since complete boots are 130 flexes that may or may not be the ideal flex for them. Mimic Professional liners are available on their own should that upgrade want to happen down the road and/or if a different flex is more suitable for them.