Just put in an order for 174's. I've spent my last 10 years on ON3P's in Colorado. Love them on 3D snow, and love the dampness and pop of the bamboo core. They are a lot of work trying to carve (and not skid) shorter radius turns on hardpack (when skiing with kids), and trying to fly through the bumps (interestingly, also a kid issue, as they go Mach 10 down the blue/black bumps). I've done quite a bit of research, and the FF seems to be the lone lower 90's ski that offers more EE for given length, will give some precision in initiating carves on hardpack, should be good in bumps and trees, fun on little jumps, and damp/powerful. Really can't find anything else in this equation, aside from maybe a custom Folsom.