Build your own diamond "puck" stones

[James]

It's not the same Edgewise over at Sunapee?

No. Never tried though. Once Graham got out, its done. Know someone he wanted to have take over, but that’s a specific life and tied to Stowe. Not many takers. Labor was the issue.
Don’t know if he sold the name or just lets them use it.

 

[SlideWright]

The structure of SkiVisions is pretty primitive though.

Are you more interested in machining and aesthetic base structure or performance you can micro-manage yourself? I think most people couldn't tell the performance difference between a linear, crosshatch or any number off awesome looking machined structures.

Here's one I did by hand with the base structuring tool & sand paper.

If you want to cross hatch or have other control, I designed the structure disk so you have lots of control with various silicon carbide sand paper grits.

 

[James]

^ that looks good!
I’d be willing to give it another shot. Its been 20 yrs probably.
How do you have a blue one, you made it?

 

[cantunamunch]

Never tried though

Erik's been touting the MMSC tuners.

^ that looks good!
I’d be willing to give it another shot. Its been 20 yrs probably.
How do you have a blue one, you made it?

You can see the 3D print layers.

 

[SlideWright]

^ that looks good!
I’d be willing to give it another shot. Its been 20 yrs probably.
How do you have a blue one, you made it?

Thanks. I'm printing all of the parts now.

 

[James]

Erik's been touting the MMSC tuners.

That’s where Graham’s machines went. But the labor is the issue. That’s 4hrs + to drop off, plus 4 hrs to pick up. Some could be combined with skiing Stowe. Graham was worth it, I almost never combined when I went up.

 

[Johnny V.]

First post in this thread, but I wondered if I could use old Moonflex stones as a base for the diamond paper. They appear to be flat (except for the grit # which could be ground off) and I've got a few around that could be put to use.

 

[SlideWright]

First post in this thread, but I wondered if I could use old Moonflex stones as a base for the diamond paper. They appear to be flat (except for the grit # which could be ground off) and I've got a few around that could be put to use.

In general, I think you could use any diamond file backing as long as you could get the diamond paper off cleanly. The adhesive on the diamond paper might dissolve with citrus or other solvent. Using a straight razor scraper ought to help.

Then you could either make your own diamond strips and adhere them, or get some PSA prefabricated strips.

 

[Mark1975]

No. Never tried though. Once Graham got out, its done. Know someone he wanted to have take over, but that’s a specific life and tied to Stowe. Not many takers. Labor was the issue.
Don’t know if he sold the name or just lets them use it.

Graham sold the Edgewise name to Skinner's at Sunapee and got out. It is not the same company as the original Edgewise. If you want a no-worry, it always be right tune, SkiMD is the place. Agree it can be a shock to the system if you need something done mid-season and Mike tells you it will be a 1+ month wait....

 

[Dwight]

The Diamond files are live now:
SlideWright Diamond Files-80mm Compact
SlideWright Diamond Files-120mm Long

(Thanks for all those that contributed here. Drop me a PM for store discount code as a thanks.)

Cool stuff. Order placed. I supposedly will have about 30 skis to do this Spring still.

 

[SlideWright]

I'm thinking these diamond 'sticks' are somewhat like a rasp. It works great on the structuring stones, detuning tips & tails, side wall/topsheet smoothing, base repair, etc, with countless other possibilities. To not waste diamonds, I'll toss a prototype in for you, Dwight. Thanks!

 

[Lvovsky /Pasha/Pavel]

I'm thinking these diamond 'sticks' are somewhat like a rasp. It works great on the structuring stones, detuning tips & tails, side wall/topsheet smoothing, base repair, etc, with countless other possibilities. To not waste diamonds, I'll toss a prototype in for you, Dwight. Thanks! View attachment 231479

…and good for pedicure too!

 

[Dwight]

I'm thinking these diamond 'sticks' are somewhat like a rasp. It works great on the structuring stones, detuning tips & tails, side wall/topsheet smoothing, base repair, etc, with countless other possibilities. To not waste diamonds, I'll toss a prototype in for you, Dwight. Thanks! View attachment 231479

I got the goods. Thank you very much. I like the looks and feel of them.

 

[James]

^ Your table top would make a decent ski graphic.

 

[SlideWright]

Good to hear @Dwight.

Along with pedicures and exfoliating, these rasps are pretty handy for touching up 3D prints. I started wondering and looking into using ceramic/Zirconium sheets on them for a variety of materials. More colors for grins:

 

[Tom K.]

but I encourage others to do double-blind tests like this to make your own conclusions and decisions for you, where you ski, what kind of snow, type of skis, etc.

Related: I've done an admittedly quick A/B test with freshly-tuned skis. One where I stopped with the 100 stone, and one where I went in steps to 400. No way I could differentiate, though my snow is typically soft by EC stds.

The forth coming compact 2 & 3 degree tuners, side wall cutter & scraper sharpener work well with the 80mm diamonds.

I feel a nice pre-season purchase coming along. Right now, the mind is occupied with waxing chains before a big, two-week, mtb trip.

 

[cantunamunch]

Right now, the mind is occupied with waxing chains before a big, two-week mtb trip.

In other news, I actually managed to wrap my hand around a handlebar - without rolling the fingers up by pressing them against my leg. Small gains.

 

[Dave Marshak]

I've done an admittedly quick A/B test with freshly-tuned skis. One where I stopped with the 100 stone, and one where I went in steps to 400. No way I could differentiate, though my snow is typically soft by EC stds.

I heard a podcast recently where Ted Ligety said he leaves his edges a little coarse for very cold courses. I rarely use a stone finer than 100. I think maybe a fine edge is faster (if you're timing at hundreths of a second) but coarser gives more grip, but it only makes a difference on harder than Eastern packed powder.

dm

 

[cantunamunch]

That yellow looks fantastic for legibility of the numbers. Me likey.

 

[Tom K.]

I heard a podcast recently where Ted Ligety said he leaves his edges a little coarse for very cold courses. I rarely use a stone finer than 100. I think maybe a fine edge is faster (if you're timing at hundreths of a second) but coarser gives more grip, but it only makes a difference on harder than Eastern packed powder.

dm

Next Ski Talk Thread: Lib Tech skis and the magic of magnetraction edges.

Not sure if they still do it, but their ski edges used to actually be lightly serrated.