Guanella is sport bike territory now that it's full paved..... but I have fun on it with my Weestrom!Two of my CO favorites are Guanella Pass from Georgetown to Grant, and Boreas Pass from Como to Breck.
Guanella is sport bike territory now that it's full paved..... but I have fun on it with my Weestrom!Two of my CO favorites are Guanella Pass from Georgetown to Grant, and Boreas Pass from Como to Breck.
PAVED?!@*?Guanella is sport bike territory now that it's full paved..... but I have fun on it with my Weestrom!
My neighbour once asked me to talk his son out of a motorcycle. I succeeded and dad thanked me often.Son bought this today. His first bike. He's very happy; dad not so much. View attachment 175329
Trident 660? Wouldn't be my recommendation for a 1st motorcycle. If it's any consolation, it could have been much worse. I hope he took/takes a safety course.Son bought this today. His first bike. He's very happy; dad not so much. View attachment 175329
Yea, was thinking that as soon as it got delivered. Went on the Triumph site, and realized indeed it could have been a lot worse.Trident 660? Wouldn't be my recommendation for a 1st motorcycle. If it's any consolation, it could have been much worse. I hope he took/takes a safety course.
Do you live in the countryside or in the City?
Does an in-line tripple give that same feeling as an in-line 4? I missed that feeling when I got my V4, after learning on my brothers (very) old CB750 race bike with lights.
Triple is a bit more torque. And it sounds more like a bumblebee than a mosquito.Trident 660? Wouldn't be my recommendation for a 1st motorcycle. If it's any consolation, it could have been much worse. I hope he took/takes a safety course.
Do you live in the countryside or in the City?
Does an in-line tripple give that same feeling as an in-line 4? I missed that feeling when I got my V4, after learning on my brothers (very) old CB750 race bike with lights.
Son bought this today. His first bike. He's very happy; dad not so much. View attachment 175329
Yeah peak torque is not the measure really. It's more accessible torque at lower rpm compared to a 600 or the 636. The stroke is longer than your typical 600 as well. So I think of it as a kinda cheater stroked 600. Your typical 600 can't pull the skin off of rice pudding below 8k rpm. Riding with a passenger on the highway is enlightening and requires the very real possibility of two down shifts to get moving. The 660 OTOH has more torque available at typical engine speeds for things such as this. It was ultimately the reason why if I were to buy again I'd go litre bike in the supersport class. Very little weight penalty for much better power.Thanks for the replies. I still trying to understand, with the limited and dated background that I have.
@scott43 Great description on the sound. I wonder if you could explain the torque a little more (I'm an engineer).
I had an '84 750 Interceptor. At the time folks were raving about its "low end torque". The fact that it had torque at the end of the Tachometer that I only ever used when starting off in first gear did almost nothing for me. I missed the "hit" my learner cycle had when the cams and the HRC headers and the well-tuned Lektron carbs all lined up in that narrow rpm range when you opened it up in 3rd and 4th gear, just before redline. The old hopped-up bike did a much better job of pulling my arms out of their sockets and tiring out my grip strength (full throttle in 1st or second was guaranteed to flip the bike over, so I never did that).
I see things have improved over the last 38 years. the 660 Trident has a smidgen more torque 47 foot pounds (versus 46 for my Interceptor) and only 6 HP less than my old 750 Interceptor (which officially had 86 HP), despite being down on displacement by 90 cubic centimeters. However, if compared to modern 750, for example Suzuki's GSX-R750, which officially has 64 lb feet of peak torque. Even if you multiply the Trident's peak torque by 750/660 to somewhat account for the displacement you only get 53 lb feet.
When you say more torque, do you mean a wider spread of torque at lower rpms (53<64) ? Or do you mean a 750 triple would have a higher peak torque than the in-line 4 Suzuki?
Thanks again for the education.
Minor leg surgery delayed my trip. Itchy route same as mine in a week or two. Taos first for mountainbike rental then going same roads then back to Ouray passes. She is 4 months delayed from posting....her snow might be like snow I find September 1. LOL Going for it. 50 degree bag and 0 degree bag brought for camping. 2 month delayed and stoked to go. I lived in Lander, Wy in 1982 and managed Radio Shack store there so hope to get there, then Dubois and Jackson then South.
@Snowfan , I was thinking about your delay and hope you get to and over all your planed 'passes'. September is firmly back in the 'snow anytime' window especially above 8k'.
What is your new expected departure day???