numeric skill rating vs word based label

[DanoT]

I will also probably suggest a 160.

160cm would be a good length if you friend is 5'5" and weighs around 130lbs. Try sizing a ski that is about his eyebrow height.

 

[no edge]

He is short and light. 5'5 and 140. That's a guess.

 

[DebbieSue]

He is short and light. 5'5 and 140. That's a guess.

Maybe more of a chimpanzee than a gorilla?

 

[no edge]

Yes probably. I almost typed Sasquatch.

Orangutang would be the label for me.

 

[markojp]

I am helping with ski selection. I believe it would be a mistake for him to buy a wide ski or an expert ski. At best he is an intermediate = stretch to intermediate/advanced. I would never suggest that he ski on a true expert ski. I will also probably suggest a 160.

I will try Corbetts. Tried SE and they didn't have much unless I was searching the wrong category.

How tall and heavy is your friend? What boot? Does it fit properly? It matters *

*( I've sold a 191 Mantra to a first time skier. Why? Retired NFL offensive lineman who's a highly athletic mountain of a human being. He would have folded a lesser ski.)

Edit... 5'5" 140, Head V8. Solid skill building ski.

 

[no edge]

Markojp ^^

The boots he has won't cut it. That will be our next project. I know boots should come first but "baby steps"

 

[markojp]

Markojp ^^

The boots he has won't cut it. That will be our next project. I know boots should come first but "baby steps"

Boots first, rent skis if needed.

 

[Lvovsky /Pasha/Pavel]

He is short and light. 5'5 and 140. That's a guess.

Get him these:

Sold - Atomic X7 Redster 168cm

Atomic X7 Redster skis with system bindings. 168cm length. Great carving skis for an intermediate skier. Cosmetic dings and scratches. No core shots. They just got a full tune, edges set, and waxed $325 net to me. Local pickup in ABQ or three hour drive radius.

www.skitalk.com

Easy to handle. Will teach him how to carv. Long enough to be stable at his size.

 

[no edge]

Yes, lots of room for growth. Nice

 

[BLiP]

Long enough to be stable at his size.

Is stable good? If he is unteachable and skiing like a gorilla/chimpanzee maybe something a little more unstable would be better. That way he’ll crash on his own before getting up too much speed and posing significant danger to everyone else.

 

[Lvovsky /Pasha/Pavel]

Is stable good? If he is unteachable and skiing like a gorilla/chimpanzee maybe something a little more unstable would be better. That way he’ll crash on his own before getting up too much speed and posing significant danger to everyone else.

If the friend cannot ski safely in control and follow skier code, he should not be on the trails.

Sounds like a lesson is mandatory.

 

[dan ross]

Boots first, rent skis if needed.

Second this strongly. Best skis in the world for a particular skier won’t make that big a difference without the right/good boots. The right boots on the other hand, can make less than perfect skis workable or better

 

[cantunamunch]

Yes, lots of room for growth. Nice

That's a great idea - but expect the guy to hate heavy snow and slush

 

[cantunamunch]

If the friend cannot ski safely in control and follow skier code, he should not be on the trails.

Sounds like a lesson is mandatory.

yes but OP has to work with what his buddy is open to.

 

[Tony Storaro]

Dude, I don't know if you realize it, but you come across as somewhere between condescending and offensively dismissive of someone you are calling a "friend".
... "No concept of what skiing should look like" ... "skis like a gorilla" ... "he is unteachable"...

Really? That incorrigible?

And yet they may be the bestest friends. Actually that’s exactly what best friends are for-to mercilessly bust your balls on every occasion. Less close friends and acquaintances must be polite, besties have to be brutal.

“You ski like a c*nt today’ is a phrase often used in our company. Among others even less polite.


Otherwise-yeah AR may be a good choice.

 

[dan ross]

And yet they may be the bestest friends. Actually that’s exactly what best friends are for-to mercilessly bust your balls on every occasion. Less close friends and acquaintances must be polite, besties have to be brutal.

“You ski like a c*nt today’ is a phrase often used in our company. Among others even less polite.


Otherwise-yeah AR may be a good choice.

When I first moved to California from New England, I had to watch and change my sense of humor. In New England, we bust the b&@ls of those we love the most -we bust because we love. If someone ignores you or doesn’t give you good natured grief, they likely don’t like you. In my experience, it’s an east coast thing, usually among people who have known each other a long time.

 

[Tony Storaro]

When I first moved to California from New England, I had to watch and change my sense of humor. In New England, we bust the b&@ls of those we love the most -we bust because we love. If someone ignores you or doesn’t give you good natured grief, they likely don’t like you. In my experience, it’s an east coast thing, usually among people who have known each other a long time.

Exactly. And British too and common in many many other cultures.

 

[dan ross]

Exactly. And British too and common in many many other cultures.

I was going to mention the Brits- brutal! If you can’t” take the piss out of your mates , who can you?” I think the New England thing is just a carry over from England.
I never laugh as hard as I do when I’m back in New England . I’m usually laughing about something said about me. Priceless.

 

[no edge]

When I first moved to California from New England, I had to watch and change my sense of humor. In New England, we bust the b&@ls of those we love the most -we bust because we love. If someone ignores you or doesn’t give you good natured grief, they likely don’t like you. In my experience, it’s an east coast thing, usually among people who have known each other a long time.

Yeah and to make matters worse... we are from Troy.

We do need to give him some kind of direction.

 

[dan ross]

Yeah and to make matters worse... we are from Troy.

We do need to give him some kind of direction.

New York or Michigan?