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Hips - Knees - Ankles
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That is not what I see.
Looks to me her upper body barely moves side to side from the fall line but I am no expert so…
That is what I see too.
Her upper body is disciplined, not static. She most certainly is aligning everything to manage the forces involved while maintaining high functional mobility. I very much doubt she is thinking, ' I have to keep my upper body still.'
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We watching the same video?
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Correction: she's worked on using dynamic movements to keep the body static so much that she no longer has to think about it.
I have trouble with 'static'. Prefer 'disciplined'. The latter infers mobility/dynamics... the former, not so much. Semantics...
I haven’t been a great fan of Deb Armstrong’s instruction before but this piece is really very good. It’s absolutely spot on, clear and, if implemented, will move even a very good skier to a higher level. It is absolutely worth watching and absorbing. I’d even recommend it to several of the random Australian YouTube coaches who routinely show in their skiing some of the deficiencies demonstrated by Wiseman and so ably corrected by Armstrong.
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It was supposed to say both, i.e. skis out and body in, but the sentence was garbled so I chopped it off and left the body in part. Since that was the part unacknowledged. The middle looks mostly feet out. But the drone is getting far away.
But I think that the appearance of her upper body not moving is an illusion created from the continuous smooth movement, and that the torso stays pretty much in the same position. It’s not a flush.
She’s always moving towards the next gate. So where skis end up the gate before, and the direction and offset of the next are the big influences.
Go to the source video, play at half speed.
The beginning, at 12 secs, has a super g (?) training where there’s a lot of across/in movement, esp the last turn.
This is the second to third turn seen in the drone sequence. (There abouts)
Time goes from bottom to top in the images below:
From about 7:33 in the video.
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Several years ago i posted the same picture asking about shoulders and i realized that my MA skills did not evolve much (if at all).
Is there any hip difference between the two? They look very similar but somehow the 2 images give very different "feel". I can pinpoint a tiny a-frame and a ski divergence for the green one. If he would move the knee a bit on the inside, would that fix the whole story or there is some subtlety in hip position that I can't see?
Is there any hip difference between the two? They look very similar but somehow the 2 images give very different "feel". I can pinpoint a tiny a-frame and a ski divergence for the green one. If he would move the knee a bit on the inside, would that fix the whole story or there is some subtlety in hip position that I can't see?
Yeah, the green has too much weight on the inside ski and a framing, or because he's a.. framing.
If green had the inside edge angle matching the outside edge angle which would involve the knee moving slightly to the inside of the turn then there would be no a framing. I do not see snow coming off the inside ski to indicate too much weight on the inside ski. I suspect that the skier on the left may be at a higher rate of speed indicated by higher edge angles and more inclination. The left skier has a more aggressive athletic stance.
Explain why you think that way?
Green may be on the outside ski, but not over it. He's back and in, park and riding. Diverging tips evidence this. He's most likely thinking that high edge angles start by moving the hip inside. The inside ski is a dingle berry just dangling along for the ride. Angulation is happening at the lumbar, not top of femur... but its a moment in time, not an entire turn.
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Can you explain baxk?
The green skier needs to move his inside foot closer to the outside leg when his goal is to make turns like this one. People are suggesting that he move his inside knee farther out, but if he does a lot of air will show from this camera angle between his upper legs. That's not something to work towards. The goal should be line and all the things needed to travel that line.
If he moves his inside foot over closer to the outside lower leg, the A-frame will go away. To keep the edge angles of both skis equal, he should assertively tip that inside ski onto its little toe edge as he moves the foot inward. At this point the inside ski is at a slightly lower angle that the outside ski.
His skis won't have as much horizontal separation across the snow as the red skier, but that's because he isn't going as fast.
He may think he will fall down onto that inside leg if he moves its foot over near that outside leg. Nope. He needs to just learn to do it and learn to stay balanced. The body will figure out how much angulation is needed. At his current speed, he won't need as much inclination in the shoulders as the faster red skier. If he did that, he probably would fall over.
His torso is more upright than the red skier. From this camera angle I can't confirm, but he is probably in the back seat. I'd suggest he assume a more aggressive upper body lean, as if he were trying to break a door in with his head. Well, not that aggressive, but it may feel that way to him at first.
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Sherman, i don't have the inclination to elaborate, but read this post, explained very well.
Look at my post below.