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SSSdave

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A downsized for web digitized version of a 4x5 film transparency I shot with my view camera of quaking aspens during snow showers near Conway Summit on a fall leaf trip in October 2007. Am in process of tediously digitizing a few hundred old 4x5 slides and this is one finished a few days ago. Using my Sony A6000 with a Sigma 85mm prime plus extension tube to directly image focus stack sets from transparencies on a Logan light box. I then stitch blend stacked quadrants. Not drum scan quality but better than my old Epson scanner. Enough to look sharp on a large 8k display.

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A downsized for web digitized version of a 4x5 film transparency I shot with my view camera of quaking aspens during snow showers near Conway Summit on a fall leaf trip in October 2007. Am in process of tediously digitizing a few hundred old 4x5 slides and this is one finished a few days ago. Using my Sony A6000 with a Sigma 85mm prime plus extension tube to directly image focus stack sets from transparencies on a Logan light box. I then stitch blend stacked quadrants. Not drum scan quality but better than my old Epson scanner. Enough to look sharp on a large 8k display.

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I don't understand half of your process but you do beautiful work. Thanks for sharing.
 

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A downsized for web digitized version of a 4x5 film transparency I shot with my view camera of quaking aspens during snow showers near Conway Summit on a fall leaf trip in October 2007. Am in process of tediously digitizing a few hundred old 4x5 slides and this is one finished a few days ago. Using my Sony A6000 with a Sigma 85mm prime plus extension tube to directly image focus stack sets from transparencies on a Logan light box. I then stitch blend stacked quadrants. Not drum scan quality but better than my old Epson scanner. Enough to look sharp on a large 8k display.

Though I've never tried focus stacking, I'm familiar with the idea. But I'm not understanding the need for focus stacking for a perfectly flat subject like a transparency?
 

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@SSSdave , like everyone else above I don't speak photography very fluently, but really like that picture of the aspens.
I am guessing that the "stacking" is what gives it the depth. That is a wonderful effect. Thank you.
 

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Largest snow we have seen in town for at least 5 years, and still snowing. Will call it 6" since last night and it isn't over. The ski areas around here are predicted to get 1'-2' out of this storm cycle.
My Supervisor is in the window.

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I love the "beware of dog" and then the dog scowling in the window :roflmao:
 

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Yup.

I'm trying to figure out:

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Of course, given my name, I had to ask about this one I saw on a pair of skis one day:
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I thought I was being rejected.
Doug you are not alone, we have had so much fun with this over the years. Had one neighbor look at it for 2 years before he asked.

NO L noel.

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Though I've never tried focus stacking, I'm familiar with the idea. But I'm not understanding the need for focus stacking for a perfectly flat subject like a transparency?
A key issue trying to digitize film with a camera has always been critical focus across a full film plain. No top ILC camera lenses are equally optimally sharp from frame center to frame edges and corners. The greater magnified detail desired, the more critical are the micro-dimensions of focus required regardless of added lens element optics tricks. Not only is film on any base not absolutely flat but also critical focus difference varies between say a center focus and frame points further away towards edges. Optimal optically would be a slightly concave film plain. There is tremendous potential resolution in slides but getting a critical focus from a single shot has been inferior to typical flatbed XY scanning processes, much less laser drum scanning. But laser drum scan cost about $80 each and I have hundreds of strong images.

But with focus stacking using a top medium telephoto prime digital lens, I can use sharpest apertures as F5.6 and take a number of shots at different film frame locations while setting Auto Spot Focus for each of those spots. At each point am taking an F5.6 and F8.0 shot. With 6 spots that is 2*6=12 shots per frame that later is optimized with Zerene Stacker that chooses the sharpest point for each XY spot to make the composite image. So 2*6*4=48 total shots. I do that for each of the 4x5 quadrants and then stitch blend combine that with Kolor Autopano for the full composite that I then perform Photoshop processes.
 
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Hey! There's a big, frosted donut in the sky!
 

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@SSSdave , like everyone else above I don't speak photography very fluently, but really like that picture of the aspens.
I am guessing that the "stacking" is what gives it the depth. That is a wonderful effect. Thank you.
Much more impressive and real like will be when looking at the full image with high detail on a 65 inch or so diagonal UHD 8K pc monitor display, that is termed "immersive". Currently only large 8K TVs are available. With the recent implementation of DisplayPort 2.1, large pc displays will also soon be available in 2023.
 

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A key issue trying to digitize film with a camera has always been critical focus across a full film plain. No top ILC camera lenses are equally optimally sharp from frame center to frame edges and corners. The greater magnified detail desired, the more critical are the micro-dimensions of focus required regardless of added lens element optics tricks. Not only is film on any base not absolutely flat but also critical focus difference varies between say a center focus and frame points further away towards edges. Optimal optically would be a slightly concave film plain. There is tremendous potential resolution in slides but getting a critical focus from a single shot has been inferior to typical flatbed XY scanning processes, much less laser drum scanning. But laser drum scan cost about $80 each and I have hundreds of strong images.

But with focus stacking using a top medium telephoto prime digital lens, I can use sharpest apertures as F5.6 and take a number of shots at different film frame locations while setting Auto Spot Focus for each of those spots. At each point am taking an F5.6 and F8.0 shot. With 6 spots that is 2*6=12 shots per frame that later is optimized with Zerene Stacker that chooses the sharpest point for each XY spot to make the composite image. So 2*6*4=48 total shots. I do that for each of the 4x5 quadrants and then stitch blend combine that with Kolor Autopano for the full composite that I then perform Photoshop processes.

Wow. Thanks for the details. One of my retirement projects is to digitize some old 35mm Kodachrome. Was planning to use FF DSLR with a macro lens, light table etc. Was assuming the DOF would be enough to capture all the film layers as well as any film concavity. Wasn't planning any stacking but I guess we'll see.
 

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The county and USFS did a wildfire fuel mitigation two years ago by clearcutting a number of acres of trees in USFS domain that was near my neighborhood. Last week and this they are burning the piles they left to dry.

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