Hello. I have a question regarding the binding mounting location on Volkl piston control race plate.
I purchased a pair of skis from a shop in Killington, VT. I noticed that the Marker XComp12 bindings were
mounted differently from the 2020-2021 tech manual.
The skis/bindings are brand new. They're 2021 Racetiger GS with X-Comp-12 bindings. These are for my teenage
daughter. I also have 2022 Racetiger SL WC 155 skis with the same binding/plates.
The tech manual I found on the web;
I contacted the ski shop and they said it's correct and they have a different diagram. How is this possible?
Are they saying the tech manual is incorrect? How can they have a different diagram?
Looking at the tech manual....
The toe piece was mounted at the incorrect location, but the heel piece was mounted at the right location
per the manual. They didn't have the actual boot. Binding mounting was just an option to purchase when
the order was submitted. They just require the boot sole length which I provided.
This shop used to be really awesome, but the owner's changed in the summer and the skis were shipped to me
in pretty bad condition by the previous owner. Supposedly, this was the last pair of skis the previous owner sold
according to the new owner.
All I want to know is make sure the bindings are at the right location so that the skis can operate as designed
by Volkl. Not trying to blame anyone. I can't really trust what the shop tells me at this point.
I tried to contact Marker Volkl USA, but I have not been able to get an answer from them. The customer support
gave me the product manager's contact info, but he has not responded. Perhaps, he doesn't know either.
I hope someone in this forum knows about these race plates well and give me the correct answer. I was hoping
to get a response from Marker Volkl USA with an answer like this.... "the manual is correct or the manual in the
above link had a revision. here's the new diagram." I am pretty confident that the shop made a mistake on this.
Some pictures so you know what I am talking about exactly... There is no boot center mark on these skis, so
I really can't tell.
[Manual figures]
For a boot with the boot sole length of 285mm, the manual says the toe piece should go to #1 and heel piece
should go to #5. The toe piece was mounted at #2 and the heel piece was mounted at #5.
[As Shop Mounted]
[When mounted per the tech manual]
One question I have is... Are there two different types of piston control plates? The picture
in the manual is slightly different from what I have. I am just assuming the manual figure is not
updated. I noticed a slight difference near the toe piece between the figure and the hardware.
I mounted everything per the manual and it seems to be fine as far as the fit. The boot can go in/out
fine. The forward pressure is adjusted fine. I am just not sure if they're mounted at the right location or not.
When I tried to adjust the forward pressure when the toe piece was mounted at the shop mounted position, the
boot would go in barely. But, it just didn't feel right. It felt like the boot was going to get damaged. It was way
too difficult to clip the boot in. The binding actually pushed small bit of plastic in at the rear clipping point.
I guess you could still mount the heel piece at the wrong location (one number forward), still make it fit, and
the forward pressure adjusted.
Anyway, for you all techs out there, I would appreciate your help in advance. I could go to another shop and
get a second opinion, but I thought I should try here first.
I purchased a pair of skis from a shop in Killington, VT. I noticed that the Marker XComp12 bindings were
mounted differently from the 2020-2021 tech manual.
The skis/bindings are brand new. They're 2021 Racetiger GS with X-Comp-12 bindings. These are for my teenage
daughter. I also have 2022 Racetiger SL WC 155 skis with the same binding/plates.
The tech manual I found on the web;
I contacted the ski shop and they said it's correct and they have a different diagram. How is this possible?
Are they saying the tech manual is incorrect? How can they have a different diagram?
Looking at the tech manual....
The toe piece was mounted at the incorrect location, but the heel piece was mounted at the right location
per the manual. They didn't have the actual boot. Binding mounting was just an option to purchase when
the order was submitted. They just require the boot sole length which I provided.
This shop used to be really awesome, but the owner's changed in the summer and the skis were shipped to me
in pretty bad condition by the previous owner. Supposedly, this was the last pair of skis the previous owner sold
according to the new owner.
All I want to know is make sure the bindings are at the right location so that the skis can operate as designed
by Volkl. Not trying to blame anyone. I can't really trust what the shop tells me at this point.
I tried to contact Marker Volkl USA, but I have not been able to get an answer from them. The customer support
gave me the product manager's contact info, but he has not responded. Perhaps, he doesn't know either.
I hope someone in this forum knows about these race plates well and give me the correct answer. I was hoping
to get a response from Marker Volkl USA with an answer like this.... "the manual is correct or the manual in the
above link had a revision. here's the new diagram." I am pretty confident that the shop made a mistake on this.
Some pictures so you know what I am talking about exactly... There is no boot center mark on these skis, so
I really can't tell.
[Manual figures]
For a boot with the boot sole length of 285mm, the manual says the toe piece should go to #1 and heel piece
should go to #5. The toe piece was mounted at #2 and the heel piece was mounted at #5.
[As Shop Mounted]
[When mounted per the tech manual]
One question I have is... Are there two different types of piston control plates? The picture
in the manual is slightly different from what I have. I am just assuming the manual figure is not
updated. I noticed a slight difference near the toe piece between the figure and the hardware.
I mounted everything per the manual and it seems to be fine as far as the fit. The boot can go in/out
fine. The forward pressure is adjusted fine. I am just not sure if they're mounted at the right location or not.
When I tried to adjust the forward pressure when the toe piece was mounted at the shop mounted position, the
boot would go in barely. But, it just didn't feel right. It felt like the boot was going to get damaged. It was way
too difficult to clip the boot in. The binding actually pushed small bit of plastic in at the rear clipping point.
I guess you could still mount the heel piece at the wrong location (one number forward), still make it fit, and
the forward pressure adjusted.
Anyway, for you all techs out there, I would appreciate your help in advance. I could go to another shop and
get a second opinion, but I thought I should try here first.
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