Budget Boot for Expert Skier

[KingGrump]

^^^ That 6D thing was Just me doing simple math. 3+3=6. Praise the lord, I had enough fingers.
Multiplication and division, that's higher math in my book. Borders on being magic.

 

[Near Nyquist]

265mm - length seems to be good, its the heel lock that was problematic for my wife. A combination of more cork (zipfit), shims, and footbed seemed to help a bit but she is still curious to how a tighter heel would translate on the slopes

That’s not the problematic 275 bsl short lasted liner boot so ya got that going for you.

 

[Near Nyquist]

Oohhh good point, I'll forward that to her! Should be said that several boot fitters in the mammoth area measured her smaller foot at 21.5 so thats why she was interested in trying the smaller boot. She did report having issues with the heel moving side to side but that all relatively went away after the bootfitter added cork and all that magic

We really concentrate on holding the VAMP down in this situation
A zip fit can take up the space to fix this issue

the other solution is a boot with a smaller vamp
That is not the 21.5 Lange RS110 or the 21.5 dalbello
The pocket is more generous than the 22.5 Mach 1 LV


You may end up in race plug land

But if the zipfit is doing the job keep skiing it

 

[KingGrump]

You may end up in race plug land

Hell no. We won't go.

But if the zipfit is doing the job keep skiing it

Or simply go to Starbuck Surefoot and ask for double milk foam. Works every time.

 

[Near Nyquist]

Or simply go to Surefoot

That’s prolly the best suggestion yet
Less work for me
23.5 filled with concrete

 

[KingGrump]

23.5 filled with concrete

C'mon dude, don't be so dramatic. I know for a fact that they don't use concrete.
They are a marketing oriented corporation using the best proprietary product available in the open market.

TBH, I think their foam looks a lot like the Sika stuff I have been using.

Sika Post Fix

Is that how you became a fitter. Got a job at HD first?

 

[Tony S]

I maintain marital harmony by elimination of unsolicited ski advices

OMG, I snorted wine out my nose when I read this. Yah. Absolutely. You never do that. And I never use obnoxiously big words, wear my wine snoot on my sleeve, or display general contempt for The Man.

So funny.

 

[Tony S]

C'mon dude, don't be so dramatic. I know for a fact that they don't use concrete.
They are a marketing oriented corporation using the best proprietary product available in the open market.

TBH, I think their foam looks a lot like the Sika stuff I have been using.

Sika Post Fix

Is that how you became a fitter. Got a job at HD first?

Very cool. Learned something from this one!

 

[KingGrump]

Very cool. Learned something from this one!

So you're gonna foam your own boots at home?

Come to think of it. We don't need no stinkin' Surefoot. We should have a boot foaming party at the Taos gathering. Couple pack of Sika will do about 20 pairs.

 

[Tony S]

So you're gonna foam your own boots at home?

Come to think of it. We don't need no stinkin' Surefoot. We should have a boot foaming party at the Taos gathering. Couple pack of Sika will do about 20 pairs.

I learned something about setting fence posts.

 

[Rich_Ease_3051]

I still think a tech like Fischer scan app can cross check your foot shape to last shapes to see which one is closest to your foot shape and size. So less material to punch or heat or grind.

Goes for other athletic shoes as well.

At this point, it's not the tech that's limiting it, but information. Maybe it can be crowdsourced by letting people themselves measure the inner boot dimensions and upload the measurement and boots size and models on a website. But then again, I don't think there's a "reverse calipre" that's available that can measure the inner dimensions of a boot. Nor an easy way to pry open the boot and measure inside, without distorting the shape and affecting the measurements.

 

[chasinghorizons]

You may end up in race plug land

I think that other thread that-shall-not-be-named has scarred me from considering plug boots (lol jk)

I maintain marital harmony by elimination of unsolicited ski advices.

@SpeedyKevin I think you can learn a thing or three from this guy...

 

[SpeedyKevin]

I think that other thread that-shall-not-be-named has scarred me from considering plug boots (lol jk)


@SpeedyKevin I think you can learn a thing or three from this guy...

Go tune your own skis -_-

 

[mdf]

But then again, I don't think there's a "reverse calipre" that's available that can measure the inner dimensions of a boot.

There are tools for everything....
https://www.mcmaster.com/inside-calipers/starrett-telescoping-bore-gauge-sets/

 

[Rich_Ease_3051]

There are tools for everything....
https://www.mcmaster.com/inside-calipers/starrett-telescoping-bore-gauge-sets/

Looks sufficient for measuring heel width as it can be inserted or dropped into the cuff. But not sufficient for instep height or forefoot or toe box which are at an angle to the cuff shaft.

 

[markojp]

We really concentrate on holding the VAMP down in this situation
A zip fit can take up the space to fix this issue

the other solution is a boot with a smaller vamp
That is not the 21.5 Lange RS110 or the 21.5 dalbello
The pocket is more generous than the 22.5 Mach 1 LV


You may end up in race plug land

But if the zipfit is doing the job keep skiing it

Not plugging for Head, but the WCR heel pocket is about as tight as it gets.

 

[KingGrump]

I learned something about setting fence posts.

If you take the liner out of the boot and stick your foot (with leg attached) into the boot. Looks just like a fence post in a hole.
It's Sika time.

 

[cantunamunch]

I learned something about setting fence posts.

Our bucket runneth over.

 

[Near Nyquist]

Not plugging for Head, but the WCR heel pocket is about as tight as it gets.

Yup
Got those in as well
Pocket is real nice
Dalbello did an excellent job with the DRS 130 as well

 

[SpeedyKevin]

We really concentrate on holding the VAMP down in this situation
A zip fit can take up the space to fix this issue

the other solution is a boot with a smaller vamp
That is not the 21.5 Lange RS110 or the 21.5 dalbello
The pocket is more generous than the 22.5 Mach 1 LV


You may end up in race plug land

But if the zipfit is doing the job keep skiing it

Good stuff, any thoughts about the CS Redster? Another bootfitter brought up how it had a narrow heel area.