They did have some really bad graphics a few years back but lately they've been okay...at least I think so.
Tell him what I really think.The biggest supporters often become the loudest critics when they feel abandoned or that their interests are marginalized. Common theme across marketing, politics, religion, etc. It’s not all that surprising that some of the early hard core supporters are upset if they feel like Stöckli is no longer making skis for them and is ignoring their interests. Whether that perception is correct or not is another issue.
Personal?
Stockli is a company, not a person unless you think their CEO is reading here in which case: Marc, STOP IT or else forget about XMas cards from me!
Come to think of it, that’s not a bad idea at all, let me go on LinkedIn and flame the dude a little…
But it is not all bad, look here:
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Nice, right?
Too bad these as any other FIS GS skis are only good for about 5 runs in the morning after which they get absolutely pointless.
Which leads us back to the criticism on WRTs which in their current version are waaaaaaay better daily driver than any 20+ skis. For me.
Now, that last bit about the holes.... If it sets up the same keyhole dynamics,
Now, that last bit about the holes.... If it sets up the same keyhole dynamics,
but also has the incredible flex/precise edge carve of that OG WRT ST (entirely possible,
given what that keyhole tech actually does and doesn't do), then what we'd get is a winner,
hands down (based on my own experience with the keyhole skis).
At the same time, it would be literally a winner, probably - something that
might well improve times for someone like Marco Odermatt
(a scary possibility!)
Stockli will never add keyholes.Stockli adding Keyhole technology?! Bode isn’t going to be happy
Just to let you know, we had someone who lent his 166 Montero AS’s for two runs at Mount Orford in Quebec. If you are ever in that area I recommend you pop out there with some carvers or race skis. Lots of technical skiers there it seems.
So, he has been on (and bought) new Stockli model versions.
Are we talking about the 2025 versions? If so, I'll fully retract my admonition.So, he has been on (and bought) new Stockli model versions.
And, to me, he was specifically referring to the difference between the initial WRT ST 172 with WRT binding setup,
and the later ones, at least from my perspective, since I posted about it, and he commented about it at the time.
(There may be other, more all mountain Stockli models he has posted about in a similar way.)
I do not regard this as "negative," or the other pop psychology stuff posted, but more likely just the response
of a progressing skier in Europe, who must of necessity ski lots of wetter snow, often crowded, groomer
and smooth terrain, for hours, and whose awareness of the whole realm of near race and race Stocklis (among a few others)
has been expanding over the years. Maybe he's become a better, more demanding front side skier in the process, who knows?
Also, it was not only his so-called "negative" idea/impression about the greater consumer accessibility going into the later
WRT ST 172 versions: this was something very specifically told to me, using the words "easier" and "more
accessible," by a local(?) Stockli rep who happened to be in the Stockli demo tent at the Loveland Basin demo
a couple of years ago. He (and I) liked the more recent versions. But we both liked more the OG version - dang,
I've remembered my runs on it ever since, from no more than the 6-8 runs I got on it total - and I've more than half wished
I'd bought it at the time.
Apologies, @LindseyB , but I posted that admittedly exaggerated post about keyholes just because I was half hopeful to see
what a Stockli response and point of view might be. Please forgive me wanting to find out so directly, from folks on this thread.
Is the NEW WRT Binding the Icon RS 16?
