WOMEN'S World Cup 2022-2023

[Tricia]

 

[Primoz]

Thank you. Too many named “Markus” (all spelled with k).

Hahaha it's not. One is Markus (Waldner... chief race director for men) the other is Marcus (Mayr, assistant race director for women at tech events... and pretty much nicest guy on tour)
Err... sorry you were actually right... officially both are Markus with k. My bad.

 

[Moose32]

I met Markus W at Schladming (on hill at lunch place at top of lift). He seemed very nice also.

 

[Primoz]

Pretty surprising news, at least for me. Meta Hrovat just put out she's finishing her career. Not timed to when people normally decide to quit, but on the other side not such surprise afterall, as she had whole bunch of issues with her knee and it was anything but great at the moment, and racing and real shocks on knee didn't even start yet.

 

[James]

Sorry to hear that. I always though she might break through into a bunch of podiums in gs.

Training in Zermatt.

3rd place gs, 2021 Kranjska Gora

 

[Swede]

Sorry to hear, she was always very enjoyable to watch, really nice and clean technique. But sometimes you have to make tough choices. Don’t know if it’s the case here, but I know a couple of skiers that basically were given the choice to quit now or risk ruining your body completely and be on crutches or in a wheelchair.

 

[Rudi Riet]

In other news: the DH at Matterhorn-Cervina was canceled today after failing snow control. The warm weather at lower elevations meant no meaningful snowmaking could occur.

Hopefully a make-up race will be scheduled to return parity to the speed and tech races. We shall see.

 

[Primoz]

@Rudi Riet cancelled women GS will be rescheduled (to where should be known in next few days), but Zermatt-Cervinia speed races are not going to be rescheduled. And it's same for men and for women races.

 

[Rudi Riet]

Cool about the GS (and far simpler in terms of logistics) but a real bummer about the DH for both men and women.

 

[Zirbl]

Pretty surprising news, at least for me. Meta Hrovat just put out she's finishing her career. Not timed to when people normally decide to quit, but on the other side not such surprise afterall, as she had whole bunch of issues with her knee and it was anything but great at the moment, and racing and real shocks on knee didn't even start yet.

Didn't know she'd had issues with her knee, but after reading Sandi Murovec's coaching book recently, I had a look at some SLO training clips he was involved with and it seemed he encourages moving the inside knee to the inside of the turn in quite exaggerated fashion, past the line of the inside hip, as opposed to up and out of the way and not past the line of the body. When I looked at the WCers, Hrovat seemed to do this quite a lot. Is that a general SLO approach or just a coincidence between a handful of skiers? (Not sure it's there in the race footage, it was more on training clips.) (Not suggesting it caused the injury, just noticed a different knee position.)

 

[4ster]

Sorry to see Meta Hrovat done at the young age of 24. I really liked her skiing and she seemed to be on the rise in recent years.
I remember watching a short documentary about her last year. She seemed well grounded with a lot of support around her.
Hope her future is bright.

here is a link to the DH news…
https://www.fis-ski.com/en/alpine-s...-cup-men-s-matterhorn-cervino-races-cancelled

 

[Primoz]

@Zirbl main issue with her knee came from last year's Lenzerheide crash, where I was actually pretty surprised her knee was (sort of) ok after she hooked gates and her leg twisted like crazy. I honestly don't have much contact with club/kid coaches here anymore, so I have no idea if Murovec' strategy is main stream nowadays or not, but considering his reputation here, I would more likely bet against that. And I would say in Meta's case this is more concidence then something else, as, like I wrote, her issues are from very particular crash not something else. Most of her other health issues are not knee related, but more of ankle related. Now if these are connected things with technique you mentioned, I have no idea. Maybe, maybe not.

 

[Zirbl]

Now if these are connected things with technique you mentioned, I have no idea.

Me neither, wasn't suggesting it was. Talk of her knee just brought what I'd seen to mind, and I have a general interest in what's being coached in different places.

Not sure I follow you re. Murovec's reputation - what is it?

 

[Primoz]

@Zirbl he's a bit well... special His ego is somewhere in upper stratosphere, and he doesn't have much results to back it up, so people are mostly on "i don't like this guy" side. But thing is, he has some pretty damn good ideas when it comes to technique and coaching, so as far as I'm concerned, they should listen to him way more then they do. But I guess it's everywhere pretty much same, at least from what I saw, and you have those groups that stick together regardless of what, and if agenda is "we don't like this guy" then we don't like him, regardless if his ideas are actually good. And in his case, he makes is very easy not to like him

 

[Zirbl]

@Primoz interesting to have a bit of background to his book, thanks. Sounds like the age-old sporting story.

 

[geepers]

@Primoz interesting to have a bit of background to his book, thanks. Sounds like the age-old sporting story.

Is his book worthwhile? Do you have his apps?

 

[Zirbl]

Is his book worthwhile? Do you have his apps?

I suppose it depends on what you're hoping to get out of a written description of ski technique and stills. I would have liked to have read it in conjunction with the apps, but they're not available for Android. He also made a film with Tina Maze, but I can't find anything but the trailer.

 

[wnyskier]

Is his book worthwhile? Do you have his apps?

Being a Ski Master

Available on Amazon as a Kindle edition. For $10 it's an interesting read. Not the clearest technical explanations which are further obfuscated by clumsy translation...

 

[Swede]

In other news: the DH at Matterhorn-Cervina was canceled today after failing snow control. The warm weather at lower elevations meant no meaningful snowmaking could occur.

Hopefully a make-up race will be scheduled to return parity to the speed and tech races. We shall see.

Only practice were cancelled. Races "candelled"

 

[Rudi Riet]

So the races had a big buildup of wax in the ears and needed some cleaning?

Got it.