Lange Shadow 120 MV

[1Turn2Many]

Not the one I put on my foot. No way. The heel volume is very different IMHO.

Different more volume or different less volume?

 

[The Retired Skier]

Not the one I put on my foot. No way. The heel volume is very different IMHO.

That is the #1 reason the Lange RX 130 and the Rossi Hi-Speed Pro 130 MV fit me so well is the narrow heel pocket that is synonymous with that last. If the heel pocket on the new Shadow is larger, it will not work for me, meaning I need to snap up one of the above while they're on sale right now!

 

[Wasatchman]

That is the #1 reason the Lange RX 130 and the Rossi Hi-Speed Pro 130 MV fit me so well is the narrow heel pocket that is synonymous with that last. If the heel pocket on the new Shadow is larger, it will not work for me, meaning I need to snap up one of the above while they're on sale right now!

I bought a backup RX 130 for $250. Regardless, it will come in handy just for the liner alone.

 

[markojp]

Different more volume or different less volume?

More.

 

[The Retired Skier]

More.

Dammit!

 

[Wasatchman]

I saw a video where someone was saying the same thing as marko. I find it very strange that Lange would mess that much with their fit as there are a lot of fanboi's like myself who won't even look at another boot because I like their fit.

I haven't tried the Shadow so maybe there is a good reason they changed things up so much, but I'm glad I have a backup RX just in case.

 

[The Retired Skier]

I saw a video where someone was saying the same thing as marko. I find it very strange that Lange would mess that much with their fit as there are a lot of fanboi's like myself who won't even look at another boot because I like their fit.

I haven't tried the Shadow so maybe there is a good reason they changed things up so much, but I'm glad I have a backup RX just in case.

I agree. If Lange has changed the fit, I will have to look elsewhere. Luckily, the Rossignol boots are built on the same last as the RX.

 

[markojp]

Luckily, the Rossignol boots are built on the same last as the RX.

Not really... in my experience.

 

[late4gates]

More.

Interesting. The Blister review says ...

Update 1.26.23: Lange told us that the fit of the Shadow is quite similar overall to the Lange RX / RS mold, but the Shadow has a slightly lower-volume heel pocket (reportedly similar to the original RX / RS), and the Shadow features 1 mm more room around the navicular area.

These traits would both be ideal for me but a higher volume heel pocket would definitely not.

 

[markojp]

Interesting. The Blister review says ...

Update 1.26.23: Lange told us that the fit of the Shadow is quite similar overall to the Lange RX / RS mold, but the Shadow has a slightly lower-volume heel pocket (reportedly similar to the original RX / RS), and the Shadow features 1 mm more room around the navicular area.

These traits would both be ideal for me but a higher volume heel pocket would definitely not.

Weird.. i wonder if i put on some sort of prototype?

 

[The Retired Skier]

Interesting. The Blister review says ...

Update 1.26.23: Lange told us that the fit of the Shadow is quite similar overall to the Lange RX / RS mold, but the Shadow has a slightly lower-volume heel pocket (reportedly similar to the original RX / RS), and the Shadow features 1 mm more room around the navicular area.

These traits would both be ideal for me but a higher volume heel pocket would definitely not.

This would be PERFECT for me!!

 

[Philpug]

I was hoping to get a Shadow for reviewing but there are no 25.5's yet. The cuff is very interesting and the liner has some neat fit features.

 

[1Turn2Many]

Interesting. The Blister review says ...

Update 1.26.23: Lange told us that the fit of the Shadow is quite similar overall to the Lange RX / RS mold, but the Shadow has a slightly lower-volume heel pocket (reportedly similar to the original RX / RS), and the Shadow features 1 mm more room around the navicular

That would be awesome. Even better, no BOA.

 

[late4gates]

@markojp I would tend to trust your experience over a hearsay quote on a review site. That said, I hope they’re right

 

[1Turn2Many]

Weird.. i wonder if i put on some sort of prototype?

Maybe the liner is plusher or thinner.

 

[markojp]

Maybe the liner is plusher or thinner.

The liner seemed similar to an XTC3 liner. I did a shell fit, and know the RX and RS boots well. The LV Shadow was in my observation, higher volume than the LV RX.

 

[Wasatchman]

I was hoping to get a Shadow for reviewing but there are no 25.5's yet. The cuff is very interesting and the liner has some neat fit features.

I can't wait to hear when you get a hold of one and any thoughts on what they did with the fit (if anything). I don't doubt @markojp and yet there are reports of different tweaks. Wonder if there were prototypes out there, etc

I'm also just interested because I trust for Lange to replace the RX line with another model name, they must think the changes are a big deal... Hopefully for the better for all us Lange fans out there. Luckily I have backups in case...

 

[jrc22ski]

I skied the Lange Shadow in mid-March and here was my summary to the rep:


"Conditions today were firm, natural snow with poor light and….terrible grooming (if groomed at all).

I skied my 175cm Stockli AX with a decent tune - 3 runs on my Lange plugs, low angle groomers.

I grabbed the Shadow in a 26 and I decided to keep my intuition liners on with my foot beds.

I have a large bunion on left big toe and I was surprised as there was no pressure or discomfort - nice toe box space.

On snow I immediately felt like my ski was 5” longer in front of the toe - so it works! What I gained in front pressure was negated somewhat by a boot with more foot movement in the shell that is not as torsionally stiff as my Lange plugs.

I did quite a few runs then met with a friend that said the snow was tough - firm and grippy. I decided to loosen to the 2 upper buckles up to get some more flex in the upper cuff. I liked the way it skied this way and noticed a more progressive engagement in my turns.

I believe you have something here. If they were fit to me with a Power Booster it would be better. A narrow lasted “Shadow Plug” - even better?! "

 

[Tony S]

On snow I immediately felt like my ski was 5” longer in front of the toe - so it works! What I gained in front pressure

Not sure I understand this. I would think a gain in leverage over the shovel would make it feel shorter, not longer. Maybe you mean that the front of the ski felt more planted and stable, like a longer ski would?

 

[jrc22ski]

Not sure I understand this. I would think a gain in leverage over the shovel would make it feel shorter, not longer. Maybe you mean that the front of the ski felt more planted and stable, like a longer ski would?

My way of explaining this would be