The Never-Ending Stöckli Discussion

[Kyle]

Yes, Alpine Sports has placed an order to become a dealer this fall.

Great news—seems like a good fit.

 

[Johnny V.]

Just found out that the new Nastar National champ for 40 age group just won on my pair of 180 GS demoes.

'20-'21 version or the new version?

 

[anden]

Hi, first post here. I decided to try Stöckli, and got myself a pair of used 175 Laser GS because I really like high speed carving. However I have always enjoyed both SL and GS skis, and tried to pick this GS ski length on the slightly short side in order to compromise a little on the radius. Then I bought another pair, 175 Laser AR, because I thought it would be better in loose-snow afternoons, the occasional off piste (still learning there thought), and maybe also lower speeds when skiing with my family. Problem is that I won't be skiing until next season and can't wait to try the skis Also wondering about the seleced models and if I am giving up too much low speed and short turn fun for the days with my family. Would perhaps a pair of 170 Laser SC be a better fit for my skiing, or other suggestion? I was hoping to have two pairs of skis at most. I am 6'1, 160 lbs. Appreciate any thoughts.

 

[anders_nor]

I think the stockli club had a meetup at our local hills, I swear it was a majority of stockli rippers on the black and red runs, we also saw the tendencies yesterday.

So are good skiers drawn to stockli, or does stockli skis make people ski good? It was quite enjoyable both days, both watching on the hill while skiiing, but also from the lift.

The topsheets are good for brand recognition for sure.

 

[LindseyB]

'20-'21 version or the new version?

New version.

 

[NE1]

Hi, first post here. I decided to try Stöckli, and got myself a pair of used 175 Laser GS because I really like high speed carving. However I have always enjoyed both SL and GS skis, and tried to pick this GS ski length on the slightly short side in order to compromise a little on the radius. Then I bought another pair, 175 Laser AR, because I thought it would be better in loose-snow afternoons, the occasional off piste (still learning there thought), and maybe also lower speeds when skiing with my family. Problem is that I won't be skiing until next season and can't wait to try the skis Also wondering about the seleced models and if I am giving up too much low speed and short turn fun for the days with my family. Would perhaps a pair of 170 Laser SC be a better fit for my skiing, or other suggestion? I was hoping to have two pairs of skis at most. I am 6'1, 160 lbs. Appreciate any thoughts.
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These are the 2 skis in my quiver I go to the most...perfect choices for what you describe. I will add that while the AR can be driven easily with comfort, it also responds really well when diven extreemly hard, just not with the earlier hook-up of the GS.

 

[LindseyB]

Bit of thread drift, but curious to hear everyone’s opinion on the laser gs (other than it rocks) and how it compares to the Ax, which I own. Too much overlap?

The AX and GS are very different animals. The GS is a smooth power carver. Yes, you can veer off piste with it, but be ready for a rough ride. The AX is less powerful but still high speed comfortable. It is however very manageable off piste.

 

[LindseyB]

Hi, first post here. I decided to try Stöckli, and got myself a pair of used 175 Laser GS because I really like high speed carving. However I have always enjoyed both SL and GS skis, and tried to pick this GS ski length on the slightly short side in order to compromise a little on the radius. Then I bought another pair, 175 Laser AR, because I thought it would be better in loose-snow afternoons, the occasional off piste (still learning there thought), and maybe also lower speeds when skiing with my family. Problem is that I won't be skiing until next season and can't wait to try the skis Also wondering about the seleced models and if I am giving up too much low speed and short turn fun for the days with my family. Would perhaps a pair of 170 Laser SC be a better fit for my skiing, or other suggestion? I was hoping to have two pairs of skis at most. I am 6'1, 160 lbs. Appreciate any thoughts.
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I think you have a perfect 2 pair set for your desires.

 

[LindseyB]

How does the CX compare to the WRT ST?

WRT-ST is the extreme end of precision and power. While the WRT-ST is not happy off piste, the CX is fine off piste by comparison. The WRT-ST is a full blown World Cup construction ski, whereas the CX shares the same construction as the AX as a much more forgiving ski.

 

[Johnny V.]

New version.

A friend of mine (who is a Stockli fanatic) was told by a creditable source that the new version of the Laser GS was "10% faster" than the old version. Guess I'll wait for the new ones-that's a significant amount of time!

 

[anden]

These are the 2 skis in my quiver I go to the most...perfect choices for what you describe. I will add that while the AR can be driven easily with comfort, it also responds really well when diven extreemly hard, just not with the earlier hook-up of the GS.

Thank you for sharing, and good to hear that the AR is working well also when intensity is lower. Now I am even more eager to get going.

 

[anden]

I think you have a perfect 2 pair set for your desires.

That's very encouraging to hear! Thank you for the reply.

 

[DJD]

Only the very far section of the tips are stiffer. The front section of the ski is identical, thus making it have the same flex pattern.

The stiffer tip material really only affects the torsion of the tip, making it engage easier. I couldn't find a downside to the new tip design. Other than very slightly faster turn initiation, the ski feels identical.

I am also in the camp of not wanting to see it changed from the prior generation and for me the ski is essentially a twin brother with barely quicker reflexes.
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@LindseyB -- any thoughts on how the 21-22 model would compare to the 20-21 model for a less advanced skier than yourself? Still a pretty minimal difference?

 

[noggin]

Anyone know where i can find some X13s for a pair of Laser ARs?

 

[willy384]

I'm happy to see more interest in the AR's. I purchased a pair last week and hope it was the right decision for a ski that can be all over the mountain but, be pushed hard when needed.

 

[surfsnowgirl]

Took my Stormrider 100s in Killington spring snow last weekend and they were outstanding. They were amazing in the spring bumps. Prior to this I'd only had them out on a power day. Love these things.

 

[LindseyB]

@LindseyB -- any thoughts on how the 21-22 model would compare to the 20-21 model for a less advanced skier than yourself? Still a pretty minimal difference?
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They would not be likely to notice a difference.

 

[cb the ripper]

The AX and GS are very different animals. The GS is a smooth power carver. Yes, you can veer off piste with it, but be ready for a rough ride. The AX is less powerful but still high speed comfortable. It is however very manageable off piste.

Thank you! Based on this and other research, I pulled the trigger this weekend to round out my quiver. Excited to get after it next winter. Thanks for your continuous advice.

 

[dovski]

Mission accomplished quiver complete

Look what arrived this morning. Getting them tuned tonight so I can ski them this weekend during those crisp spring morning runs.

Full quiver now consists of the following:
stockli Laser AX
stockli SR88
stockli SR95
Nordica Enforcer 110

Now if only Stockli had a ski for deep pow

 

[motogreg]

"quiver complete" lolol